I agree with the posters here about the importance of not wearing undies under shorts. I've done several centuries with minimal saddle problems (and I wear the cheap Performance shorts, mostly!), so I think that's a really important thing. No reason to be modest since black shorts are not see-thru at all!

As for Chamois Butt'r, I also use it for all rides over 25 miles. I do not put it in the middle (girly bits!) where it might sting, just in the areas between my inner thigh and crotch, which is where I will chafe if I am going to. It's good stuff!

Emily