Okay, maybe I am not measuring right. When I sit down I feel two bumps/bones. I measure those points? I feel like I have some boney, misfigured butt. I know my bones are small but I have lots or fat or hopefully some of it is muscle that covers those bones. I think Brooks saddles are good, I am keeping them on my fixed gears but for the long distance I'm not sold on them. I am sure a different model may be the answer since the only problem I had with the Brooks was chaffing. I know I've got eight saddles laying in a box in my basement. My daughter has a Butterfly Ti on her bike. I didn't like it, she took it and loves it. She's 13 and I think when your young nothing aches.