Veronica - Thanks for the application info! I've ridden some long days and have never tried it - maybe that will save me from some uncomfortable moments - I'm trying it on the next long ride! Also I had kind of figured the padding might break down - I need a new pair of shorts anyway and have the Sugois in my TE shopping cart ready for checkout!

Gretchen - Not going commando in the biking shorts could be an issue - I never wear anything underneath, the excess seems to cause more problems than not. I've been rubbed raw by the underwear seams when I have worn it - and that's usually "that time of the month". Normally it's commando for me!