I tried to get into the thong thing, because they were trendy and looked cute on the Victoria Secret models. My French ex BF (yes, the same one who didn't understand why it was so funny/insulting when he told me I smelled like tuna [after eating it]) said I looked like a sumo wrestler...I don't think he meant it in a bad way, but now thongs and Sumo wrestlers are inseparably linked in my mind...

The hop measurement is when you measure around the widest portion of your bitt.

(Sorry- my nails are getting too long...)

I think bike shorts are trending toward a lower rise, which is good for us short people!!

I love the rise of the Sugoi RS Flexes, BTW. About one inch below my belly button.

Trashy Cats are nicely low rise, and don't go halfway up your back, either. Good luck finding any though.