I bought a pair of these from the classifieds at tis site. Since the legs are long, and they stay down, I like them. Still don't know about the chamois, though. I am thinking I am already heavily padded, but I am not ready to rip it out yet. What I really love is BREATHING! I rode in regular jeans, and since I have drop handlebars, my belly was pinched by my jeans. The lycra expands, and is comfortable. I wear a long t-shirt over the shorts,so only my thighs show. (OOPS I just wondered about my back veiw while riding but I don't care, they are all motorists anyway, so let them be offended. (Most of my riding is through an industrial area.) Besides the breathing room is worth it. In fact, I've even been wearing my shorts for sailing when I am not biking (due to breakdowns)
I don't find the elastic around the bottem of the legs or at the waist to be constricting. It is just the Baby Huey feel of the chamois that seems weird, but I think I am getting used to it.

Besides doesn't black make us all look like a size 6?
I'm getting used to the idea that I'll look fat no matter what I wear, so let me be functional.

Mary