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  1. #1
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    Why it isn't a good idea to (always) train with men

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    good article. but i immediately thought of the bathroom situation. they go ANYWHERE. I need a toilet unless we are truly out in the woods.
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    Mimi--one word for you--Freshette--check this out
    http://www.freshette.com/usage.html
    I have used one for years, particularly back when I used to have a motorcycle. They used to sell them at REI, but I don't know if they still have them there or not. It has saved me countless times.

    Back on topic, I read the article, and I think it makes some good points. Of course, I am still in super-weenie condition, and it really doesn't apply to me right now

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    wow, never heard of such a thing!! Thanks for sharing. i dont think i'm going to get one though.

    and i'm not in that kind of condition either, but it's interesting to read women specific articles !
    Mimi Team TE BIANCHISTA
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    Peeing

    Riding the brevet series, I learned about peeing. (On an MTB, you can almost always find convenient cover- road biking is way different!) First of all, if you're starting out in a big peloton you don't want to get dropped from, when the guys stop for their first break, usually as soon as they are decently out in the country- they just care about finding a fence line. So- I just back up to the fence and go- and I'm as fast as a lot of the guys.

    Next, when you're trying to hold it, to get to a convenicnce store Control- what if the rest room is out of order? It's happened to me, and I've had to go out back and find either some woods or any sort of cover. It's just not possible to hold it till the next control which could be 30 mile away.

    So it's a lifesaver to have wipes or tissue with you, and more balm to apply later, or, if worst comes to worst, it's better, I think, to dry off with the back of a glove rather than risk getting rubbed raw from left over sweat/pee. (Good reason to carry spare gloves on a super long ride!)

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    PS, nice article about our wimpy little hearts and iron-poor blood!

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    Give me a cup, and I can pee anywhere, anytime.
    "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather, to skid in broadside thoroughly used-up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming: WOW WHAT A RIDE!!!!"

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    That was a really interesting article. And peeing is THE big issue for me, since I have the proverbial pea-sized bladder. I'll take any tricks and tips on that one that I can get. I asked my jock family doc if she could arrange for a transplant for a bigger bladder but she just snickered.

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    Ok peeing in a kayak in the ocean is really hard! Since we are on the subject of peeing. Went out with dh a couple weeks ago early in the morning after having two cups of coffee. Well we paddled out and it hit me! I couldn't go back to the launch site. There were no bathrooms on the shore. So i thought ok I have this travel coffee cup I will scoot my butt up and use it. Not so easy! Our boats are the sit in type not sit on. I had to stay very balanced, try to get my pants down and pee in this cup. Anyway i had to wash out my boat when we got home! Didn't mention it to my dh, just said the inside needed a good scrubing! smelled musty to me I told him. I am not sure if the freshette would work in that situation. Besides that is a very pricey gadget there.
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    I haven't tried the freshette thing in a kayak, but I have used it on a small sailboat, and directed the pee into a plastic bottle to get rid of later. It's pretty slim, and when you get used to using it (a lot of it is the mental thing of relaxing the bladder muscles when you feel like you shouldn't), it's easy. It is kind of pricy, I guess, but it lasts forever. I have had mine for over 10 years now.

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    It is a very good article for me to read because constantly ride with my husband. I truly became faster and stronger because of that. But he has way more power. Our rides are definitely not every day race training, so I am never mentally exhausted. I cannot relate to this part. I know that he is physically stronger but I still believe that training with him helped me a lot. It is rather a motivational factor for me.
    I do know couple of women who can beat the heck out of a lot of me riders in the group. These girls are super riders and not intimidated by any guy.
    I would send this artcile to my husband and see what he has to say about it.

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    Brandi, is it too cold to wear a swimsuit in the kayak and get into the water to go??

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    I'll never forget teaching a girlfriend how to pee over the side of a dive boat! :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanci
    Brandi, is it too cold to wear a swimsuit in the kayak and get into the water to go??

    Nanci
    it would be in the Seattle area!!!
    ocean temps in the summer are in the 50's!!
    Mimi Team TE BIANCHISTA
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    ok at campmor.com they have the freshette for cheaper as well as this http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/st...0226&langId=-1
    Blessed are the flexible, for they shall not be bent out of shape.
    > Remember to appreciate all the different people in your life!

 

 

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