ok, well i gave my new gloves (manzella blizzard 75's) a real workout yesterday. it was another -5 degree morning in Canberra, and i headed out early. Gotta say they were fantastic. I didnt suffer from freezing fingers at all! So, if you have cold hands like me, and dont mind a glove that makes you sweat a little when it gets above zero, i think they are the go. Wore them in this morning again, and even though it was +5, the icy wind off the mountains made me appreciate them even more. Felt so happy this morning cos there was nothing to stop me enjoying the ride!

Thanks again to everyone for their help. I was so depressed about it when i first posted my query. Felt like winter riding was not going to happen, but now i think i've got everything organised, and nothing will stop me