That's going to be my official title when I'm donereally don't need to address ya as "Dr. Booger."![]()
Hmmm, what are the qualifications to get a "Doctor of Cycling" - CycD....
That's going to be my official title when I'm donereally don't need to address ya as "Dr. Booger."![]()
Hmmm, what are the qualifications to get a "Doctor of Cycling" - CycD....
"Only the meek get pinched, the bold survive"
I think this is an interesting thread. I personally don't care if folks call me by my first name or doctor, in fact I am most comfortable with my first name, but I had to react to that earlier post that only MDs deserved the title Dr. But, its also important to not overinterpret someone's reasons for correcting someone. For example, if someone wants to formally address me and calls me Mrs. L, I will correct them that it is Dr. L, not to be snooty, but because Mrs. L is my mother, not me. That is, I kept my maiden name, and Mrs. L implies that I am married to Mr. L which I am not, so either call me by my first name, or if you insist on formalisms, use the accurate formalism. Everyone who works for me in my lab, my grad. students, etc. call me by my first name, but med students call me Dr. L. since that is the covnention in the medical school courses (I run a research lab and teach medical students biochemistry). And I definitely correct people when they send an invitation to Dr. and Mrs. .........
I simply think use of the title "Dr" should be inconformance with the cultural setting. For example, an attorney also has a doctorate. It is customary to use the title in an academic setting but not in any other setting that I can think of. Matter of fact, in court the title is Ms, Mrs., Counsel or whatever, but not Dr.
In my corporation's culture where the MDs and all but one Ph.D do not use their title when introducing themselves, it is presumptious for this one and only Ph.D to use his. For heaven's sake, I know Ph.Ds who drive trucks for a living because they decided they liked the open road better. Can you imagine what would happen if they introduced themselves as Dr So and So?
If I meet someone in a casual setting, for instance at a bike club ride, it tells me a lot about a person if he or she introduces themselves as Dr. So and So rather than just a first and last name; the fact that they have earned a doctorate has no bearing on our mutual participation in cycling. If I met the same person in his or her professional capacity and the culture of that industry or business was to use the title, it is absolutely appropriate.
Frends know gud humors when dey is hear it. ~ Da Crockydiles of ZZE.
from my big brothers website:
"Piano players are often refered to as "Doctor" or "Professor" a tradition dating back over 100 years to the role of piano player as parlour entertainer in the great mansions of Storyville, New Orleans legendary red light district."
But my bro has a Phd so he really is "Doctor", also sis and neice here on TE and many others in the family.
Just not me, humble art major.
Ya' know what really tics me off? Don't call me "Operator". I'm not an operator, neither was the service rep who ticked you off when you called yesterday.
Now, how can I help you?
Nothing wrong with being an operator but not everyone who answers the phone at "da phone co" is an operator.
There's repair administrators (when you call 611), DSL repair, all kinda folks.
What's the difference? Well, being an operator is a pretty good paying entry level telcom job, repair-more complex and higher paying, etc. Our jobs are not piece-work. I'm paid for what I know and what I *might need to know* to help you out today, and I make a good 25-30k *more* than they do.
Last edited by Trek420; 07-07-2006 at 09:25 AM.
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Gravel bike ~ Salsa Vaya
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This goes back to the vet correcting someone on the first page. Seeing what my friend Johnny is studying in vet school, I put him on the same level with other MDs. I trust my vet as much as my own doctors. I think he deserves to be addressed as Dr. D___ as much as my family practice, dentist, neurologist.... The funny thing is my vet returned my call last week and referred to himself by his first name! My other vets always said "This is Dr. ___." It felt so informal, of course my furbabies do go visit him a lot maybe we are on a first name basis now.
I hated being in a college town and having PhDs getting snotty in public if you called them Mr. or Mrs. I worked retail and had to refer to the customer by name, how am I to know you have a PhD? A lot of MDs have it on the credit card, but not PhDs.
Amanda
2011 Specialized Epic Comp 29er | Specialized Phenom | "Marie Laveau"
2007 Cannondale Synapse Carbon Road | Selle Italia Lady Gel Flow | "Miranda"
You don't have to be great to get started, but you do have to get started to be great. -Lee J. Colan
I know a woman who was interviewing for a job as an engineer, and was told to meet the interviewer in the company cafeteria at the door. She stood there looking around, waiting for someone to approach -- only to have a man walk up to her and hand her his tray as he was leaving.
Not only did it never occur to him that she was an engineer -- it also never occurred to him that an African American could be anything but a cafeteria worker.
“Hey, clearly failure doesn’t deter me!”
Gosh, this thread reminds me of so many personal stories....It would be funny to write a book about the idiot things people say! It's kind of funny to hear some of the comments while working in male dominated career fields (used to bother me but I just file those comments in the "stupid people bin"), but also sad that the presumptions still exist after all these years.
pooks "Not only did it never occur to him that she was an engineer -- it also never occurred to him that an African American could be anything but a cafeteria worker."
OMG, I know this kinda &^% happens but...did she confront him?![]()
What a moron.
I don't think any womens work or job title gets respected till the hardest job we do is respected....that of being a Mom whether you work outside of the home or in.
Betcha didn't expect that from the rabid lefty unapolagetic feminist.
Fancy Schmancy Custom Road bike ~ Mondonico Futura Legero
Found on side of the road bike ~ Motobecane Mixte
Gravel bike ~ Salsa Vaya
Favorite bike ~ Soma Buena Vista mixte
Folder ~ Brompton
N+1 ~ My seat on the Rover recumbent tandem
https://www.instagram.com/pugsley_adventuredog/