Thanks everyone! I am feeling much better. And I think there is truth to statement that with time and more riding I will get stronger. Once again patience is the key.

I do believe in riding just for the sake of the love of riding but then I get into the “mob” mentality on group rides or when riding with someone stronger than me and I don’t stop to take into account the variables. (the last gal I rode with was great and patient - she is a tri-athlete and trains 3-4 hours a day - HELLO of course she is going to ride stronger)

I liked the list re the rider categorization - it would really clarify some of the rides if we used it. . . I think I'll introduce it

Thanks again for the perspective readjustment

eclectic

PS I do take the average from when I leave home until I arrive back home - If I took my fastest time it would be 40.5 whoo hoo