Well some of the route is in my head and not written down cause frankly its too hard to write down - you would get lost if you didn't have a guide. BUT I'm willing to meet with you guys and do an early ride and I can show you the hills. Otherwise I do have the bottom part of the ride on a route list which I can send to you. It includes enough hilliest to make the ride hard. Send me an email at home and I'll forward the slip... bcipam@yahoo.com