Ullrich out of TdF!!!!

**margo49** · 06-30-2006, 05:12 AM

Oh, no he *is* crying - all that time and training down the gurgler...

I can't concentrate on anything - keep coming back to see updates

**jeannierides** · 06-30-2006, 05:19 AM

Well, here's the thing, ladies... I'm really disappointed too, but we all have to realize that IF these guys were involved, it's cheating... and they all knew it was cheating...

And, yes, Nanci...we can't forget Acevedo!

**Nanci** · 06-30-2006, 05:22 AM

Yeah, I definitely don't feel bad for people who cheat. They knew the rules.

Nanci

**Tater** · 06-30-2006, 05:50 AM

I agree with Nanci, they do know the rules and what happens when those rules are broken. But what a downer to those who follow them!

**maillotpois** · 06-30-2006, 05:54 AM

Shocked. Sad.

So, Susan, Can we get a "do over" of our TdF predictions?

**Aggie_Ama** · 06-30-2006, 05:59 AM

My favorite is Hincapie and I have been telling my DH all along I would like to see him on the podium. I think he could have gotten there with Basso and Ullrich, but I wanted to see him really fight for it. At the rate this is going it might be an all American podium.

I agree, the cheaters knew they were cheating and now they must live with the choice (if true). It just stinks when you cheered for someone and now they might be a cheater. I really like Jan and Ivan, I would like to hear its not true.

**Susan Otcenas** · 06-30-2006, 07:44 AM

Well, I'm completely floored by this news. I remember the Festina scandal in 1998 and what a bad light that cast on the sport. One would have thought that after that, cycling would have made a serious effort to clean itself up, but here we are, 8 years later, with yet another doping scandal.

On the bright side, cheating is cheating, and I don't want to watch an event full of cheaters. I want to watch an event full of clean riders, who have trained their bodies and minds to achieve greatness, without having to cheat.

Yes, this is terrible, but what other sport is attacking doping head on? Barry Bonds is still playing baseball - if he were a cyclist he'd be long gone. Yes, people cheat, but we should be proud to be involved ina sport that actually has serious consequences for the cheaters who get caught.

Originally Posted by maillotpois

So, Susan, Can we get a "do over" of our TdF predictions?

Yes. We've modified our contest page to allow anyone who entered prior to 8:40 a.m. PST to enter one more time.

Susan

**Fredwina** · 06-30-2006, 07:52 AM

Originally Posted by Susan Otcenas

Yes. We've modified our contest page to allow anyone who entered prior to 8:40 a.m. PST to enter one more time.
Susan

Thank you! I was waiting just to make sure. I thought something like this was brewing....

**maillotpois** · 06-30-2006, 08:56 AM

Originally Posted by Susan Otcenas

Yes. We've modified our contest page to allow anyone who entered prior to 8:40 a.m. PST to enter one more time.

Susan

Excellent. Thanks! Now I just have to re-group and figure out who's going to win!!

**jeannierides** · 06-30-2006, 05:53 AM

Yeah, this whole thing definitely puts a negative *spin* on the sport. I think Landis may have a point...

**Lifesgreat** · 06-30-2006, 06:04 AM

Is today April 1st????? Oh my goodness!

I am SO bummed these guys are out of the TDF!! I have a question for you who may have more info than I do, how strong is the evidence against these riders? Is it info "leaked" to a paper, or is there stronger evidence than that? If they were cheating, strong punishments are in order.

**jeannierides** · 06-30-2006, 06:17 AM

It seems that they were at the very least *linked* to the Liberty sting...Basso's name appeared on a list of *clients*. Here's what was said about Ulrich...

"Although it hasn't yet been established that Ullrich and Sevilla doped, it has been proven that they had contact with the doctor, which they lied about to T-Mobile."

Unfortunately, it's one of those... "If it walks like a duck..."

And it's not over...

**slinkedog** · 06-30-2006, 06:41 AM

How totally shocking! I couldn't believe it when I read the headline on my Yahoo page!!

It is a sad day for our sport. This just makes it easier to believe, in my mind, that everyone in cycling is doping.

I hope Hincapie, Landis and Levi do well.

**Jo-n-NY** · 06-30-2006, 07:03 AM

Me too "SHOCKED"....Although I considered Hancapie a slight underdog in this, I truely would have been so happy if he won, I just really like the guy. But if Jan won, I would have felt ok also only because I felt bad and figured this would have been his last chance. I am so truely shocked that Basso was in this line up also. What a mush mash of feelings.

Well, there we have it and now I do not consider George an underdog. He just may win it.

"I hope Hincapie, Landis and Levi do well." quote from Slinkdog

I agree and winning in that order won't be so bad either.

~JoAnn

**emily_in_nc** · 06-30-2006, 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by Jo-n-NY

"I hope Hincapie, Landis and Levi do well." quote from Slinkdog
I agree and winning in that order won't be so bad either.
~JoAnn

That's my new order. I'm a huge Hincapie fan, but I didn't want him to win it because of lack of competition. I like Zabriskie too.

I am so saddened about what has happened. Like everyone else, I wanted all the top competitors to duke it out without Lance. If the riders expelled are indeed guilty, of course they don't deserve to ride, but it pisses me off something awful that they screwed up the tour for the many fans and viewers. Shame on them!

Emily

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