Kathi, what you are saying about learning about our bodies is so true. I was so frustrated. I went to my LBS, prepared to shell out 3000 for a trek madone, and not only could they not fit me on it, they couldn't fit me on any bike in the store, all had too steep a STA for my long femur, and too long a top tube. The female fitter said I had to have a bike with a 24" front wheel or less. Then I looked at the 2 bikes I had that fit well, my terry classic, and my bike friday, and BINGO, they both had wheels 24" or less in front, 73 degree STA angles and top tubes in the 48-49 cm range. So, I had my fit, I just had to find a RACIER bike that met those specs, and the 2005 titanium Isis fit the bill. I rung up Georgena Terry, and she even worked with me to build it to my specs (I need a custom crank due to my LLD) and worked with Harris Cyclery in Boston to get it built, and I took delivery in Boston on a business trip. All for a very reasonable price. I have a titanium bike, while not cusom built to me, custom fitted to me, for $2000 (not including the crank set which I had to purchase separately for almost as much as the bike from the fellow that built it, but that's another story). I thought of going cusom wih Lenard Zinn, but he wanted twice that much money. That is great you gals found fitters that did custom right. I also thought about a calfee, but I definitely didn't trust the man that fits those in my town.