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[Lise]

I don't like carrying water with me, but if I don't, my route is constrained to where there are water fountains. If I forget and deviate, I'm in bad shape. I have a water bottle with a mesh handle thing that makes it easier to carry. A pack of Sport Beans fits perfectly in the little zipper pouch it has. I don't know that the "bonk" would be instantly remedied by 100 cal of sugar + a bit of salt, but it couldn't hurt. Anybody here use those "fuel belts"? I hate the feeling of anything bouncing on my hips/back/belly, but I also hate carrying stuff in my hand. So I may get one, though I don't like spending the $ if I'm not going to use it...

Anyhoo, fish, maybe carry a pack of beans for use as needed next time. I do like the wheels idea. Makes me think of Phillip Pullman's books, His Dark Materials.

[Nanci]

http://tinyurl.com/pbanc

I was reading in the What Animals Do You See thread about someone's DH who saw a condor in the wild. I've been thinking about them all day. This link is to the story of the last free birds before they were captured and taken into captivity to try to save the species, and what happened to them in captivity, and how they all ended up. It's pretty short. I should feel happy for them, but it really makes me feel like crying, too.

Nanci

[DrBee]

Wow Nanci. I just read the condor article. I see what you mean. Happy that they are being released, but sad at the same time. The last line is a doozy.

I'm sure you're familiar with the ivory-billed woodpecker stories, right? Thought to be extinct, but a few credible sightings have been made. Oddly enough - my postdoc's husband is one of the people that has made a credible siting! They live in the Atchafalaya, which is where he saw it - 3 times! Now that's happier, eh?

Lise - I'm so new to running that I've seen the fuel belts, but haven't tried one. It looks uncomfortable to me. RunningMommy should have a solution to this, right? She's got to have a way to carry water with her in AZ! I don't know if she's lurking in this thread or not.

Got chocolate - have you noticed how expensive candy is these days? I bought Hershey's kisses. Bleh - I haven't had them in a while. They're pretty bad.

Gee, NPR reported this AM that MS is the unhealthiest state in the country and the the MS Delta (where I live) is the unhealthiest place in the state so therefore the unhealthiest place in the country. Isn't that just lovely...

Enough drift for now - I have a paper to write!

[Lise]

OK, this is officially "Thread Whine":

I just got back from a "run". Run a block, can't breathe, think I'm going to puke, walk a block, feel better, repeat. Finally turn around, come home, figure, at least I got in 2.5 miles. Check pedometer. 1.73 miles. ****! (I just typed four stars. You fill in the letters.) I even ate some sport beans and drank my entire bottle of water.

Worked last night, but it was mostly quiet, so I got several hours of (fitful) sleep. Hadn't heard from photo guy since Tues night, so wrote him an email, he wrote back, blah, blah, general info on what he's been up to, signed off with, "Stay in touch". Stay in touch?!? Fer cryin' out loud. How disappointing.

I am dripping sweat, and it's supposedly only 78 degrees out. I can't run more than a block without panting and wanting to puke. Is it the extraordinarily expensive Enell bra that feels like it's crushing my ribs and impinging on my gastric sphincter (will that word be censored?)

Tomorrow I'll run before work, when it's cool, my favorite time to run. Then I'll ride to work, and, since it looks like I won't be going on a date, I'll go for a ride after work. That's truly something to look forward to.

Now I'm going to shower, take a nap, and ride my bike to volleyball in three hours. Thanks for letting me whine here.

[Lise]

Gee, NPR reported this AM that MS is the unhealthiest state in the country and the the MS Delta (where I live) is the unhealthiest place in the state so therefore the unhealthiest place in the country. Isn't that just lovely...

I didn't hear that story--is it so unhealthy because of the lifestyle of the inhabitants, or because of pollutants, weather....?

Sounds like a great deal on the shirts, and I like the little zipper pocket idea. I like just about anything that has a pocket! L.

[DrBee]

I don't like carrying water with me, but if I don't, my route is constrained to where there are water fountains. If I forget and deviate, I'm in bad shape. I have a water bottle with a mesh handle thing that makes it easier to carry. A pack of Sport Beans fits perfectly in the little zipper pouch it has. I don't know that the "bonk" would be instantly remedied by 100 cal of sugar + a bit of salt, but it couldn't hurt. Anybody here use those "fuel belts"? I hate the feeling of anything bouncing on my hips/back/belly, but I also hate carrying stuff in my hand. So I may get one, though I don't like spending the $ if I'm not going to use it...

Uh Lise - look at the running threads - there's one about carrying water on long runs. I just saw it - good info. Nanci's carrying device looks pretty cool!

Good advice - I am going to pack some sport beans. I picked up some cheap-o shirts for running in that have wicking material (by Danskin) at ......the dreaded Wallyworld for $9 - they actually have a zipper pouch in the back that works great for sport beans! I wear them for some of my rides, too. They don't wick as well as the jersey's, but they're sleeveless and I don't have a sleeveless jersey. Sometimes it's just too hot to have something on my shoulders.

[Nanci]

Yeah, that Ivory Bill news is a pretty big deal. I saw the video and heard the recordings- I'm convinced. Now what we really need are some photos. I wonder how many there are...I hope enough to make a recovery.

I wonder how the adult condors felt, being released after so many years in captivity. I was reading about how they try to make the released captive-bred birds averse to human contact by capturing them temporarily and putting them in "timeout!" It said that juvenile condors get in trouble because they are curious and not afraid of humans, so back in the old days when there was a wild population that had never been in captivity, they would still get to close to humans and get shot or whatever.

Lise, was your heart rate really high? That's what makes me feel like puking is a high heart rate. Hard to avoid in the afternoon in the summer. You might try taking an electrolyte cap _before_ you start, and putting a bandana of ice around your neck.

Nanci

[Lise]

Lise, was your heart rate really high? That's what makes me feel like puking is a high heart rate. Hard to avoid in the afternoon in the summer. You might try taking an electrolyte cap _before_ you start, and putting a bandana of ice around your neck.

Nanci

I don't know--I wasn't wearing the HRM. It certainly felt high. I've never tried the electrolyte caps, but I'm going to get some. I'm telling you I was dripping sweat. It gets pretty frustrating, trying to fit in runs with my schedule. At this moment I WANT to just go ride as hard as possible, because I'm feeling frustrated, but instead I'm going to eat something salty and go lie down in the AC. Thanks, Nanci. L.

[maillotpois]

Wow Nanci - that condor article was amazing. Thanks for pointing us to it. I had no idea what was going on - I knew they were endangered, etc., but that story is incredible. I also had no idea they lived that long!

[DrBee]

He's not the one that shot video, but has had sightings. They have had a few photographers come out and try, with no success. I'll have to ask when they're going to try again.

The condor powerline aversion training sounded pretty horrific.

Lise - maybe you should ask photo guy on a date?? Coffee or something simple, I don't know. That sounds like a not-so-fun run. Maybe it's just not a good day for running. I'm sweating just sitting here in my way-too-hot office. There's no air moving in here. whine. whine. whine. Stop rolling your eyes Nanci

I hope you all have a glorious evening - I'm heading home for more visiting with the in-laws tonight.

[DrBee]

Lise - health issues are primarily related to obesity, heart problems, and diabetes, ...and poor healthcare, low income, and poor eating habits - all of which are intertwined.

[Nanci]

Speaking of wine, on the menu for tonight is a new Chardonnay from an old favorite vintner, Chateau Ste. Michelle, or, possibly, one of my favorite red blends which I buy when I want something really cheap ($8) really good, really reliable- Bonny Doone Big House Red. Sitting in the fridge is my beloved dessert wine favorite, Bonny Doone Vionier Doux. It has to wait until the weekend. I am so pleased with my new method of wine label preservation- photographing them, printing them out, and gluing them into my log book. It's worked out so well. The log book is kind of like a mini diary, too, because I write what I was doing, even for the second, third, etc. bottles. So there is one from when we were at Fort Wilderness for the Florida Half IM, (I think that's the World Championship for the half) and from the night I finished my 600k brevet, and from Six Gap, etc.

For dinner is lo mein- house lo mein (chicken, pork, shrimp and beef) with no veg because BF can't even pick it out, and $2 extra beef and $2 extra shrimp!! Yum!! It lasts for two or three meals. Wish he'd hurry up and get home.

Time to take the babies out to graze! I really got eaten by ants when I had them out yesterday.

It's 93F here, but only 84 in the house, and 74 in the bedroom!!

The flowered Prana capris that I have been drooling over for a year, too expensive even on sale, have sold out in my size :-( Good thing I really like the Sugoi black flowered tank I bought to go with them, someday, a lot by itself...

But I _did_ buy a pair of Insport (what is that???) shorts at Sierra Trading Post only because they have a purple stripe down the side. I'm sure they will suck. But maybe not! They might prove to be the exception to the rule of you get what you pay for.

I have chocolate in the fridge, but I am ignoring it. A Mars Bar from SS, which I can't say I have ever eaten. When I was a kid, I didn't like caramel or nuts, and as an adult I like mostly dark choc, plain, but also in the form of truffles, or choc covered ginger or orange peel or espresso beans (only to be eaten in the safety of my own home!!)

I'm reading, in the bathroom, the Chris Carmichael nutrition book right now, and Snickers is an approved food! But I don't eat them- just passing that on for those who do.

I'm reading (out on the patio) a book called Nature Noir, about a ranger in the Auburn Dam area in California. I'm at the part where the runner gets eaten by a mountain lion. People on the ultra running list knew her. Can you imagine knowing someone who got eaten? If I had to die, I'd rather be eaten by a cougar than hit by a car.

I'm reading, in bed, the newest Stephen King book, Cell, where everyone on a cell phone gets some mysterious pulse that turns them into a kind of zombie with a group awareness- don't know why yet. Some people don't have phones, and leave their cities, walking only at night when the crazies are asleep. It's good so far.

[Trek420]

My neighbor found out her dog could hardly hear so she
took it to the veterinarian. He found that the problem
was hair in its ears. So he cleaned both ears and the
dog could hear fine. The vet then proceeded to tell
the lady that if she wanted to keep this from
recurring she should go to the store and get some
"Nair" hair remover and rub it in the dog's ears once
a month. The lady goes to the drug store and gets
some Nair" hair remover. At the register the druggist
tells her, "If you're going to use this under your
arms, don't use deodorant for a few days." The lady
says, "I'm not using it under my arms." The
druggist says, "Well if you're using it on your legs,
don't shave for a couple of days." The lady says,
"I'm not using it on my legs either. If you must
know, I'm using it on my schnauzer!" The druggist
says, "Stay off your bicycle for a week."

[Nanci]

On their wedding night, the young bride approached her new husband and asked for $20.00 for their first love-making encounter. In his highly aroused state, he readily agreed.

This scenario was repeated each time they made love, for more than 30 years, with him thinking that it was a cute way for her to afford new clothes and other incidentals that she
needed.

Arriving home around noon one day, she was surprised to find her husband in a very drunken state. During the next few minutes, he explained that his employer was going through a process of corporate downsizing, and he had been let go. It was unlikely that, at the age of 59, he'd be able to find another position that paid anywhere near what he'd been earning, and therefore, they were financially ruined.

Calmly, his wife handed him a bank book which showed more than thirty years of steady deposits and interest totaling nearly $1 million. Then she showed him certificates of deposits issued by the bank which were worth over $2 million, and informed him they were one of the largest depositors in the bank.

She explained that for the more than three decades she had "charged" him for sex, these holdings had multiplied and these were the results of her savings and investments.

Faced with evidence of cash and investments worth over $3 million, her husband was so astounded he could barely speak, but finally he found his voice and blurted out, "If I'd had any
idea what you were doing, I would have given you all my business!"

That's when she shot him.

You know, sometimes, men just don't know when to keep their mouths shut!

[DrBee]

OMG! ROFLMAO for both of those! Nanci - your's snuck up on me. What a great way to start a long weekend! We're travelling to Knoxville tomorrow - woodturning workshop for hubby.

We're doing gourmet pizza with the in-laws tonight. I get to eat the leftover crabs

House is 80F, office was 78F but with no airflow - I was melting all day! Ceiling fans are on at home - makes it feel cooler. Kids are in the pool with grandparents. I'm heading to the kitchen to make cookies for the woodturning thing. I get to hang out with the wives at this thing. Should be interesting. Wish I could let them watch the kids and I could bring my bike

Nanci - where don't you read