ok.... so i rode the bike yesterday with the "new" bartape on it... (the fizik silver).... i was much happier! YAY!

i think the 4.5 with the thinner fizik tape is a good combination (the 2.5 with the fizik wasn't cushy enough!) and of course... the 4.5 with the really cushy specialized tape was WAY too much!

i'll know more after this weekend (128 mile ride)..... i'll start out with gloves since the sun won't be up.... but around 8 i'm sure i'll take them off! (unless for some reason it's still cool at 8 and i still have my jacket on... but with the forecast... i doubt that!)

so my very own opion..... only get 2.5 if you are going to use specizlized cushy bar tape.... you can use 4.5 with fizik (or other thin tapes!)