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    here's my challenge

    I'm not sure the camera quite captures its horrors, but here are two shots from the bottom looking up and the top looking down of 2/3 of my monster hill. At the top, it levels out, then makes a sharp left turn and then there's an S-shaped not quite as steep incline which curves around to the very top of the hill.

    BTW -I'm mathematically challenged - how does one determine the percentage of incline/grade?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chartman64
    I'm not sure the camera quite captures its horrors, but here are two shots from the bottom looking up and the top looking down of 2/3 of my monster hill. At the top, it levels out, then makes a sharp left turn and then there's an S-shaped not quite as steep incline which curves around to the very top of the hill.

    BTW -I'm mathematically challenged - how does one determine the percentage of incline/grade?
    Seeing the pics, my reflex was getting up from my chair That's definitely a hill I'd stand on, unless it would go on for more than, say, half a mile.

    To measure the incline %, just know how much elevation you gain in how much distance. Example: if you gain 5 meters elevation over 100 meters distance, that's a 5% incline, 50 meters over 1 km is 5% too, whereas 100 meters over 1km is 10%. The metric system makes this much easier to calculate!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chartman64

    BTW -I'm mathematically challenged - how does one determine the percentage of incline/grade?

    I use this website to automatically calculate the incline.

    http://www.csgnetwork.com/inclinedeclinegradecalc.html

    And I usually get the changes in elevation and the distance from google earth which someone kindly recommended!

    barb

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    Quote Originally Posted by chartman64

    BTW -I'm mathematically challenged - how does one determine the percentage of incline/grade?

    I use this website to automatically calculate the incline.

    http://www.csgnetwork.com/inclinedeclinegradecalc.html

    And I usually get the changes in elevation and the distance from google earth which someone kindly recommended!

    barb

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    Quote Originally Posted by chartman64
    I'm not sure the camera quite captures its horrors, but here are two shots from the bottom looking up and the top looking down of 2/3 of my monster hill. At the top, it levels out, then makes a sharp left turn and then there's an S-shaped not quite as steep incline which curves around to the very top of the hill.
    Oooh, oooh, ooooh I want to try that hill! It would probably kick my butt but trying it every day for awhile would definately make me a much better climber!! That is one kick @ss hill!

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    Lightbulb hmmm - maybe I'm just a wuss!

    OK - downloaded Google Earth, checked the values -- apparently nowhere near as steep as I thought. I ran the figures in the grade/incline calculator and my monster hill is actually only a 15% incline for a tenth of a mile.

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    Red face

    a 15% incline is somthin' to train on. is that a stop sign at the bottom of the hill?
    i'm such a chicken on the descent......

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    Love Hills!!

    First-mashing is a waste of muscle (my opinion)
    Second-weights, resistance training, squats what ever excercise that works for you- build your legs!!
    Third- no shame in the snake!!! the last technique we use (hubby, brother and some friends) before we decide to dismount the bike on steep inclines. the snake is going back and forth across the road in the pattern a snake would use to gain a little speed and rest the legs.

    We ride our bikes in the White Mountains of Maine and have found a few good techniques.

    1st- lightweight bikes lots of gears!! Downshift as you need comfort -no mashing. As someone else mentioned shift up a few and stand for a bit, when you sit shift down as you need. Try to keep a bit in reserve. You can use this a few times on steep hills.

    2nd- spin up sitting up in control without losing momentum straight not bouncing in your seat!

    3rd- the snake!!! It is less shame than walking!!

    It all works for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by petals
    First-mashing is a waste of muscle (my opinion)
    Second-weights, resistance training, squats what ever excercise that works for you- build your legs!!
    Agree 100%. Mashing trashes your legs and can hurt your knees. Keep pedaling in a circle. You may have to shift to easier gears than normal but once you get it (teach your legs - it's call muscle memory) you will fly up inclines.

    Bulgarian split squats. Try it - you don't need a gym. C'mon. I see you out there. Drop the donut & follow me:

    First, put a chair parallel to a wall, table, etc., so you can balance yourself. Stand with your back a couple of feet from the chair. Bend one leg & place the top of your foot on the chair. Get ready to reach for the table/wall, etc. Now, lunge with your opposite leg (that would be the one on the floor.) Don't let your knee travel past the top of your foot & practice pushing back with your glute. Great for quads, your core & your booty.

    Seated hamstring curls, if you have access to a gym. Best thing that mimics pulling back on the pedal.

    Of course, the best way to get stronger climbing hills is to climb hills.
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    Dogmama--thanks for the exercise tip.

    Chartman64--that hill looks scarier looking down than looking up--yikes!

    I've been following a particular cycling fitness program that suggests "pulling up on the handlebars" when you're pedaling hard, particularly on hills (in the saddle, anyway). When I've tried this, it seems to work OK on the downstroke, but if I try to do it while maintaining a nice, round pedal stroke, my bike wants to wander all over the road on the upstroke--that is, I can't seem to pull on the bars AND pull up and back smoothly on the pedal. So do any of you do this pulling up on the bars when pedaling hard on hills, or does this just sound like some idiosyncracy in the program I'm using?

    By the way, the program is outlined in the book 7-Week Cycling for Fitness by Chris Sidwell, and I'm using it to get back into shape after being off my bike for a long time. I like the program generally, but this pulling up thing has me perplexed. Any ideas?
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