At this point I decided that while the terry shorts are fine, I prefer the shebeest short on a long ride so I will keep the two worn pairs and sell the two brand new ones, for $60 each, which INCLUDES priority mail shipping, handling, and insurance in the domestic US. At this point I sold one pair today, and one is still up for grabs. If you want them, just email me privately at Triskeliongirl at yahoo dot com.