Log those miles on Bikejournal!!!!!

[tulip]

I deleted my bulk entry for TE. Sorry, but BJ was double counting my mileage because I have two clubs. I tried the filters, but I could not get it to work right. While I would like to have 1600 miles so far, I only have 800.

So until someone can let me know how to have two clubs and one set of miles, then I'm sticking with my local club.

-tulip

[CorsairMac]

Raven: you can add or miles or not for 2005.....it's truly up to you. I think if you look under your profile there is a place to log in 2005 miles as bulk. and welcome!!

Jo: you did beautifully my friend! and welcome welcome!

Tulip: the only way I know that you can do that is to set up another ID on BJ and enter your 2nd club and log the miles there. You can email Slantz and let us know what he says - I know several women here belong to more than one club.



and where is our fearless leader Nuthatch? I know it got cold in the Midwest recently - did we lose her in a snow drift??

[Bike Goddess]

We had a long discussion about clubs and mileage and putting miles in twice last year on the Bike Journal. I think the consensus was you only ride those miles ONCE so counting them twice is like double dipping. For now it's put those miles in one place and keep the integrity in!

[SadieKate]

Posted back in Feb 2006 by Slantz on bikejournal as his design plan. It will allow miles to go towards more than one club. The changes have not been implemented yet.

I have pretty much decided on a course of action here:

1) Your rides will count toward all clubs you belong to.
Pros:
1. No more misconceptions about why your individual total in your club is different than your individual stats - I think most people are interested in your total distance (or other cumulative stats) for the whole year, not just the miles you have somehow "chosen" should be associated with that club. My arguement here is that there is no standard by which one chooses to associate those miles (it's subjective), thereby making comparisons within and among clubs very inconsistent. If all rides count to all your clubs, the rules are straightforward and simple.
2. No more reason to sign up for multiple profiles to log your miles to multiple clubs. This is causing problems in the individual stats and would no longer be an issue or temptation. I can then apply a hard rule about only allowing one profile per physical person.
3. Keeping track of these totals will be simpler in the database and the ability to pull club stat information will be streamlined (less processing power to render the club stats page)
4. You will still have the club association field in your journal, so you can pull up reports on each club as desired using the journal filters or enhanced stats. So those who still want to track/view their rides by club can.

2) Clubs will need to designate if they are local or "virtual"/associations. This will allow everyone to choose how they wish to view the club stats - with all clubs included, virtual clubs only, or local clubs only. Multiple views could be saved similar to the journal filters for easy access.

I appreciate everyone's input, but I think this will be the cleanest solution.

Also, my apologies to those who feel the rides should be credited to one club only, but I hope this solution will, in the end, provide more structure to this currently "grey" area. Thanks in advance for your understanding.

PS: This solution will still work if we determine additional changes need to be made to allow club administrators/ride leaders the option to have more control over what constitutes a club ride (ability to exclude certain rides from the club totals) as per maschwab's suggestions - I consider this a separate matter.

[caligurl]

keep the integrity in!

i agree with you at this point in time.. the way the forum is now set up (having to have 2 usuer names to have miles go to two clubs)... however... slantz has a much different perception.... he has no problem whatsoever AT THIS TIME with people having more than one log in... as several times it has been brought to his attention... and he basically said... fine... they can have 2 (or more)... there are several duplicates at the top.. which bump everyone down....

hopefully.... once he does the above (doesn't seem a priority to him.. he'd rather add other stuff.. but hey.. it's not my board!) then hopefully he'll enforce the one log in per phycal person!

[Bike Goddess]

Thanks Caligurl. I'm just a count it once kinda person- although I understand the "virtual" clubs as they are just that- not real. I just have a hang up about miles counting for two local clubs, etc.

Thanks SK- I don't recall seeing this resolution. It was a controversial topic with lots of pros and cons.

Wonder when he will set it up?

[SadieKate]

I wish Slantz would take all the mileage comparisons off the front page. They're silly. Nobody rides the same ride over the same terrain unless there are specific criteria and rules for a competition. It's like comparing avg speed over a flat course and a hilly course of two different lengths. It just doesn't make any sense to be worrying about comparing apples to oranges when you have no idea what fruit is on the other side of the fence.

[tulip]

Thanks for posting all the insider info on BJ. I really like the site. Since I'm sticking with my local club, when I reach a milestone, perhaps I'll post it here!

I'm up to 811 miles as of today after my 28 mile round trip commute. My goal for the year was 1000 miles, but will reach that by June. There are some benefits to setting the bar low!

Anyways, I hope the mileage thing gets worked out. In the meantime, I'll just go ride my bike.

[bikerchick68]

somebody IM Caligurl and bikerchick68 and tell 'em to add TE to their teams... I've already pestered them enough

LOL... Ok, Ok... I transferred my miles...

[tprevost]

you ROCK Jen!!! 8-)

[PAP103]

I added my miles - 248 (rain, rain, go away.....). Team Estrogen is in 8th place.

Patty