Quote Originally Posted by margo49
But you can't blame it all on the place. If you make an effort people make an effort back to include and accept you. It's that simple.

I didn't think I was saying that.... or trying to blame it all on the place. And I totally agree with you in terms of you get what you put in.

I was trying to use the move to a different country as an example of how lopsided I thought the marriage was (I'm getting all this from my impressions of Lance's book, I didn't see Oprah). And trying (not very well) to express what a significant contribution she made to Lance's success. OK, she gave up her marketing career, moved to another country, moved away from her family, friends, worked hard to learn the language, created a home environment and supported him. He had his cycling, and single mindedly pursued his goals, and I couldn't see what he compromised for her.

Elite athletes make huge sacrifices to achieve what they want to achieve. We forget that families, partners, SOs sometimes even more unselfishly make big sacrifices too, because they're not doing it for themselves, they're doing it for their loved ones.

I think that makes it 0.04c worth! So I'll shut up now!