Thanks, all, now I'm more confused than ever
Emotionally, I like the Orbea. More chance I'll look like a fool on it.
I'm going to start over - and ride them both again and ask more questions.
The Orbea was built specifically for a guy who rode it a week and came back and got a more expensive bike. It has 50/34 compact on it - so he had it geared on the low-end. I suspect that would be good for me and make up for the "hills" around here - which are more than the coast and less than Colorado.
Also, after reading Rivendell's site, I'm going to try a bigger bike - both of these are 54s - Rivendell says everyone buys too small. Both of these are great deals because they are the last of the 05s - with any luck they will both sale and I won't be able to buy either.

Thanks! when/if I buy a bike, I'll post it.