I have Poco 38's on all my bikes. I had the 40 CM short/shallow which I still felt was too big.

One thing is I think its ridiculous that if you ask for these the LBS guys think they are "tiny", when Gerogena Terry I think would consider this to be an average size for most women!!!

BTW, I have some bars for sale ! a short/shallow 40, and a ritchey 40.

I've also used Nitto B114 38's which is nice, old-fashioned shape and cheap