I neither rode nor skied. There was too much of a chance of black ice for a ride, with shady roads and black ice in the morning and really not enough time to go ski and be back for our friends' arrival. So, we opted for a 3 mile hike, where it was totally devoid of others, although there were 2 other cars at the trailhead. We will be hiking again today, with our friends, but probably longer and harder.