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  1. #1
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    I buy locally for artist made gifts, etc., unique things, and food. I can only buy clothing from Banana Republic, Gap, and occasionally J Crew, Ann Taylor. It's a schlep to a mall (12-15 miles), which I hate, thus, I buy ALL of my clothes on line. I have been buying from these retailers for so long, I can look at the picture and know how it will fit. That, and reading comments helps. Plus, stores often don't carry petites, and when they do, often not my size, especially in tops.
    2015 Trek Silque SSL
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    2011 Guru Praemio
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    2017 Specialized Ariel Sport

  2. #2
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    In the past, I have bought a new bike frame online (ebay, but through a bike shop selling there), but then I took it to an LBS to build up, and I spent a lot on components (Campy Chorus, etc.) If I am ever in the market for another new bike, I'll definitely go to an LBS for all the reasons cited here. And in fact, all my new bikes other than the Bike Friday (which does direct sales) have been from an LBS. For used bikes, I am very glad the online option is available for those of us who are pretty sure of our size/geometry requirements.

    I occasionally buy an accessory, part, etc. from an LBS if I need it quickly, but I mostly go online for these items, and almost always for bike clothing!
    Emily

    2011 Jamis Dakar XC "Toto" - Selle Italia Ldy Gel Flow
    2007 Trek Pilot 5.0 WSD "Gloria" - Selle Italia Diva Gel Flow
    2004 Bike Friday Petite Pocket Crusoe - Selle Italia Diva Gel Flow

  3. #3
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    Honestly one reason I buy things at my LBS is because everyone there is so friendly and welcoming. A visit there can literally turn a miserable day into a good one. But then that's not an accident -- they emphasize service so that you will want to come back again and again. And they have always treated female and male customers equally. To me this is a business model that deserves support, even if I pay a bit more than I would elsewhere.

    BTW a month or so ago I walked into their store and saw the teenage son of the owners selling someone a bike. I remember him as a baby! Mind=blown.

    I think that buying a bike online from Bike Friday is similar to buying a Doyenne jersey from TE -- you're directly supporting a good company. I wouldn't be surprised if they were very helpful with sizing before you made the purchase, Emily.

    - Gray 2010 carbon WSD road bike, Rivet Independence saddle
    - Red hardtail 26" aluminum mountain bike, Bontrager Evoke WSD saddle
    - Royal blue 2018 aluminum gravel bike, Rivet Pearl saddle

    Gone but not forgotten:
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    - Two awesome worn out Juliana saddles

  4. #4
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    I bought my most recent bike online - from someone else's LBS (in Portland, OR). No LBS near me could get the bike I wanted, they had it (rental fleet on sale), and they were lovely about it (and lovely in person when I visited). The bike before that came from my LBS. I try hard to support local businesses - and I agree with NYBiker that it sort of feels like supporting TE - not "local" to me, but nice people with a carefully curated line of products I want to see succeed.
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  5. #5
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    I prefer to purchase locally and encourage mostly my LBS as I get excellent service, very good deals, etc. I do buy stuff on-line but mostly what my LBS does not carry as his prices match, and even less, of what I'd fine on line. And excellent service is something you sometimes have to pay a bit more for.

    When I was looking for a specific Crux color, he tried getting it through Specialized Canada. He's got good connection with them and even them, could not get it as none were left at warehouse (it was in USA). So he told me to go get it (he would have done it for me but charge due to gas, etc to get it) and I was going camping in Vermont anyway. So I ended up calling many US dealer and one ordered the frame for me. But it was to my LBS I went to for the parts and the fitting, etc. The bike still ended up a piece of art (read: expensive) but this is my best bike ever. Beats big time my Amira. I prefer the comfort and no fear of the Crux. I'm more daredevil on the Crux and no regrets getting it on-line. But my LBS helped with with the measurements and make sure it would fit great. So yes, I don't mind buying stuff on line but generally, I will check with my bike shop and if he can't have/carry it, I'll go a different way.

    I also like to encourage them as they are very involved in different causes, it gives jobs to people, etc. And it keeps the money in my area.
    Helene
    Riding a 2014 Specialized Amira LS4 Expert - aka The Zebra!
    2015 Specialized Crux e5 - aka Bora Bora bike

  6. #6
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    When I bought my Seven I could have done it directly from Seven. My LBS has a couple of knowledgeable and skilled fitters who use conversation, a Serrotta size cycle and a dynamic motion capture analysis for a fitting that gives excellent fit optimization numbers with an excellent technique assessment taken into account. That also helped in my conversations with Seven about the build. For a more expensive bike that I want to be a perfect fit that made it worth it to me to go through my LBS.....plus they gave me a good discount that buying direct wouldn’t have been given to me.

    For a online or in person purchase of a vintage bike like Sammie’s Peugeot or any used bicycle you could get by with buying a reasonably sized bicycle than can have component changes made if needed to make it fit well….especially for a beginner’s bicycle. That takes some knowledge of fit that needs to be learned though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Helene2013 View Post
    it gives jobs to people, etc. And it keeps the money in my area.
    I definitely prefer supporting people that work and live in my community too….but I also buy things like my fixie wheelset from a woman who has an excellent business in Portland building wheels. I guess it’s more about just supporting good bicycle business people than anything but preferably local for me.
    ‘The negative feelings we all have can be addictive…just as the positive…it’s up to
    us to decide which ones we want to choose and feed”… Pema Chodron

  7. #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by ny biker View Post
    I think that buying a bike online from Bike Friday is similar to buying a Doyenne jersey from TE -- you're directly supporting a good company. I wouldn't be surprised if they were very helpful with sizing before you made the purchase, Emily.
    Yes, and I had extensive email and phone conversations with BF sales before placing my order; it wasn't just filling out a web form, submitting my credit card, and waiting for the bike to arrive.

    I will share this, though: I gave them all the measurements from a road bike I loved, and they still made the effective top tube too long! This was back in 2004, and they really did not understand sizing for petite women. They could not believe that I needed an effective top tube in the 19" range. As a result, I had to send the bike back to Eugene and have it redone. They paid shipping in both directions and were fine about it. I used the experience as a chance to help "teach" them about petite women with long femurs who need bikes with short top tubes and setback seat posts to achieve a proper bike fit. They seemed to appreciate my feedback.
    Emily

    2011 Jamis Dakar XC "Toto" - Selle Italia Ldy Gel Flow
    2007 Trek Pilot 5.0 WSD "Gloria" - Selle Italia Diva Gel Flow
    2004 Bike Friday Petite Pocket Crusoe - Selle Italia Diva Gel Flow

  8. #8
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    My DH also bought a BF in around 2001 or 2002. He had a very good experience. He used it for a few years, took to Spain and the UK on business trips, but he sold it when we bought our Gurus in 2010. In fact, most of the inquiries came from Asia, and he ended up shipping it to Taiwan. I guess it makes sense as he is 5'7" and most Americans are taller.
    I think a bike is the only thing I wouldn't buy online.
    2015 Trek Silque SSL
    Specialized Oura

    2011 Guru Praemio
    Specialized Oura
    2017 Specialized Ariel Sport

 

 

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