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    We have had a resurgence and some outbreaks of pertussis and measles here, especially in certain communities because of vaccine dissenters and geography.
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    Those are two really good references, yellow. Thanks.
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    hmm went to her web site with links to refereed papers... It's not in New England Journal of Medicine, not in Science, not in ... I surely would not call entropy a research and peer reviewed publication. And Journal of Toxicology is kind of iffy if you ask me. And the places where she has given a talk isn't at a research conference where the papers were reviewed crtically.

    maybe I've been hood winked somewhat.

    But I think its worth talking about it. I think Eden is right, we recognized only the most extreme form of Autism in the past. And what if we use the same metric as today, would the number have gone up, stayed the same?? I don't know.

    We also need to look at the benefit against the harm it may cause. In case of vaccination, it seems it does more good than bad. Its just that people forget how bad things were before anti-biotics. Go to a street in India, and if someone is coughing up a storm, everyone will steer clear of him by 100 feet or more, less they get TB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smilingcat View Post
    We also need to look at the benefit against the harm it may cause. In case of vaccination, it seems it does more good than bad. Its just that people forget how bad things were before anti-biotics. Go to a street in India, and if someone is coughing up a storm, everyone will steer clear of him by 100 feet or more, less they get TB.
    Well said...the benefits (not getting all these diseases) outweigh the small risk of having an adverse reaction to the vaccines. As for autism, I am no expert on the subject but I do think, like others, that part of what we are seeing is that it is diagnosed/acknowledged more now. And, if it really is becoming more prevalent, maybe there is something in the environment that is contributing to that--but vaccines aren't it.
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