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  1. #1
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    leaving a mark in the wilderness is just not acceptable. No matter what is said or how its done. IT IS SIMPLY VERY WRONG!

    Just because someone call it an art doesn't make it so.

    Who wants to see that kind of thing in what is supposed to be a natural environment? I would even be irritated if I saw something like the chalk work somebody upthread described in Glacier NP...I know it is temporary but it spoils the wilderness atmosphere IMHO.
    +1 for jolt.

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    If you want to do graffitis, why don't you do it on your own walls at home? Not that I don't like it, but not everywhere, and at any cost. Even if it is art, it can be seen as "pollution". True some are beautifully done.

    Montreal spent 3.5M$ to clean up graffitis last year. It is illegal to do any but still and fines are hefty if caught but people still do it.

    Montréal has decided to invest in the creation of artistic murals, in collaboration with several different partners. 73 murals have been created since 2007 by Montréal artists, under the initiative of the Propreté (cleanliness) division, the service in charge of beautifying the city. Most have been in collaboration with the organization Mu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helene2013 View Post
    Montréal has decided to invest in the creation of artistic murals, in collaboration with several different partners. 73 murals have been created since 2007 by Montréal artists, under the initiative of the Propreté (cleanliness) division, the service in charge of beautifying the city. Most have been in collaboration with the organization Mu.
    Helene Fleuty who did some of the remarkable trompe-l'oeil murals in Quebec did some for MU in Montreal. The Fresque des Quebecois and Petit-Champlain murals in Vieux-Quebec are two of my all time favorites.
    Last edited by rebeccaC; 10-26-2014 at 10:19 PM.
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    I love artistic murals that are created with public and government support. There are also countries where extraordinary pieces of street art serve as vehicles for public protest and political speech where these things cannot otherwise occur without enormous risk---conditions that most of us have never had to contend with. Egypt in recent years and Brazil just before the World Cup are two places that come to mind, although there are many more. I won't post the images here but if you google those country names and "graffiti", you will see hugely compelling, beautiful, painful commentary on how people are living.

    When I think of those things in contrast to the self-indulgent acts of Casey Nocket, it makes me more than a little sick.
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    Please!!! For anyone as appalled by this vandalism as I am - consider signing my friend's petition to the White House for the stiffest penalties available to this person: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...np-nm/1y8xJBGm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muirenn View Post
    I keep wondering who took the pictures. She wasn’t traveling alone. Doesn’t look like it anyway.
    Hmmmm. Good point. They don't have that selfie look. While infuriated by this act whether for the bad art, the damage to our precious outdoors or both I hope we let due process take it's course. Put away that pitch fork. I mainly brought this up for the debate on the issue and as always here, it's an interesting one.
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    Looks like NPS has officially named Casey Nocket as a suspect.

    http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/articl...er-5856747.php

    I don't know how reliable this source is, but the author claims to have spoken with Nocket's family, and has some interesting comments from an NPS spokesperson.

    http://trailmob.com/lifestyle/articl...m-investigatio
    Last edited by PamNY; 10-31-2014 at 04:57 PM.

 

 

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