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  1. #1
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    Day one of skiing in Stowe
    We went to The Stowe Mountain x country center. The skiing was awesome and challenging. Even the green trails were full of ascents. Had one great long and wide downhill, a couple of scary, twisty, narrow downhills with moguls, and one super steep one that turned and ended at a bridge. My friend the super skier fell. That and one of the others was a black diamond. After lunch, we went back out and did a green/blue loop with one big climb.
    On the way back to the cottage, I stopped and got some Epsom salts.
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    Jolt is offline Dodging the potholes...
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    I did NOT have a good ski day today! Went to the place in town again; it had been groomed but the middle of the trail was higher with depressions on each side (they groom with a machine that has tracks on each side and pulls a big roller, and the roller didn't compact the snow as much as the tracks did) so there was a pretty narrow area to try and stay on. This did not go well when trying to snowplow on descents, particularly since the snow was pretty hard after a warm day yesterday followed by refreezing of what was already some pretty wet snow. I did not even try to do the main loop; the first gradual descent was so scary that I wimped out, turned around and went to a different trail (which was also difficult in spots, especially the curve on a downhill where the trail sloped down toward the outside of the curve--that was good for an awkward crash when I slid to the outside, into the rut, couldn't make the turn, and caught my tip under the hard crust outside the groomed trail). It is just so hard to have any kind of control on this hard packed snow...anyone have any helpful tips? It would be nice to be able to effectively avoid picking up a lot of speed on downhills when the snow is like this. At least when the snow is a little softer the snowplow works! I must have fallen at least five or six times...can you tell I'm frustrated with myself today?
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    On sharp descents with cross-country skis I try to "pulse" my snowplow, as in: plow hard, let up, slide a little to one side, plow hard etc. That gives me better stopping power as I edge harder. Or I'll plow harder on one side, let up, then harder on the other side. It can resemble slalom turns. But on the icy stuff it's sometimes better to just push through, especially if it's narrow, and look for softer patches to snowplow on.

    If I find myself picking up a bit too much speed towards a turn crouching down and dragging the inside pole gives me just a little bit of added balance and control. Maybe it's just in my head, but it does work :-)
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    I think LPH's advice about pulsing the snowplows is good. For icy downhills, you just have to dig those edges in and slow the snowplow down. The quality of the grooming makes a big difference, as does temperature and sun. You should try another place and experiment with conditions/ different types of grooming.
    Days 2 and 3 in Stowe:
    Yesterday was snowing like hell and wind gusts up to 30 mph. Out we went at Von Trapp (the hills are alive...). Once in the woods the wind was not much of an issue and it was not that cold. But, blowing snow had pretty much obliterated the grooming, tracks were non-existent and the packed lane was almost back country conditions. Two hours of slogging through that was enough! At the end, we were in open fields, and it was pretty miserable. Not hard terrain, but not fun. Chalk it up as a htfu experience.
    Today went back to Trapp and it was perfect. Still some flurries, no wind and 30 degrees. We skied up to the cabin, ate lunch, and skied down, about 20k. It was not technically hard, but long. Tired but happy. No skiing tomorrow, we will shop and drive home.
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    I did a day of skiing at Windblown yesterday. The snow was excellent packed powder with temps in the 20s and sunny skies. Unfortunately, my leather backcountry 3-pin boots died the day before, so I had to rent boots and use some waxable in-track skis with SNS bindings that a friend loaned me. I wasn't used to the narrow skis, as they felt much less stable than my BCs, but by afternoon I'd forgotten about the difference and was running up hills and taking more speed on the downs. Now waiting on mail-ordered 3-pin boots to see if they'll fit and do the job - I've got weekends of skiing in VT planned the next 2 weekends. Meanwhile I found a pair of BC NNN boots for $30 that fit well and bought an NNN binding that I may put on a pair of old skis.
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    So much snow! I don't want it to rain, nooooooo!!!!
    Going to Great Brook with my cycling group today. I am sure they will be slow and sociable, but that's why I am going (the sociable part). I finally have Wednesdays totally free.
    We kind of impulsively booked a night at an inn in the Berkshires for Saturday when we were up in Stowe. We plan to get up Sat. morning, go to a x country center that is on the way, ski, then drive to Pittsfield to the inn, get up the next day, head back east, and ski somewhere else. With the impending rain and warm temperatures, I am doubtful we'll be skiing. However, maybe it won't rain out there. Will bring the snow shoes and ice spikes in case we hike or snow shoe.
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    Have fun, and I hope your weather cooperates so you can have a nice weekend in the snow! WE are starting the "Great 2014 Snowmelt" that will, no doubt, end in flooding. That is the way of things after a winter like this one. 50's today/tomorrow. Storms tomorrow. More snow this weekend and back to the 20s..

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    Jolt is offline Dodging the potholes...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crankin View Post
    So much snow! I don't want it to rain, nooooooo!!!!
    Agreed! It is snowing here (pretty heavily) right now but I think it is supposed to rain some. If it doesn't rain, maybe I will ski tomorrow morning; otherwise will plan to snowshoe since it is no fun to ski on ice! I did get out skiing before work Monday at the big XC ski center about 25 minutes away and had a much better ski than Saturday, just one "almost fall" so maybe I should chalk Saturday's fiasco up to the poor conditions on the local trails.
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