Gore Oxygen shorts - chamois question

[GLC1968]

The Gore chamois is just too big for me. I get irritation in the crease and for long rides, bunching and gathering where it doesn't belong. It's really too bad because I love both the fabric/finish of the chamois and the thickness/density. They just cover too much area! In this case, more is definitely not better. For reference, I have an old pair of the Oxygen and I have the Xenon bib and the Xenon short. They all have the same problem.

For reference: I don't know about the Sheebest short/chamois, but I also have a new pair of the LG Neo Power short and I like that chamois a lot. My favorite chamois for longer rides is the Queen from Canari.

[Crankin]

I bought a pair of Gore tights with a chamois in them, from someone on TE. They were so awful, I threw them out and I didn't even think about the money I wasted. The chamois is just like GLC described. Too wide, creased several times over, gathered and bunched on the sides, which caused incredible pain. The front was also too thick and wide.