Quote Originally Posted by Susan Otcenas
But it's up to you two really. How well do you know the roads west of here? I can cobble together a pretty good 30-40 mile ride of mostly flat/rolling low traffic roads from here out towards forest grove and back.
Well, we could do the McMenamins-Hagg Lake loop, I have never done that before but it looks nice.

I usually amble around more in the southwestern part of Washington County - last year I was doing this 40-mile loop over Bald Peak (which has a long slow 4 mile ascent with a very short steep (17%) descent into Laurelwood). My old riding partner and I used to start from and end at the Murrayhill Starbucks because we both live nearby, but I wouldn't mind a start/endpoint that's further out which would shorten the ride. There's also the little cafe at the corner of River Road and Farmington that has good slop food. But I certainly wouldn't mind something a little flatter.

What do you have in mind, Susan? I'm always falling into the same rut over and over when it comes to routes so I'd certainly love to try something new.