Long shorts or short shorts?

[Dianyla]

I like short shorts. I'm a smidge under 5'4" and my femurs are somewhat long compared to my lower legs. I feel like long shorts just look... weird on me. I'd rather wear knickers and get the benefit of knee warmth if I'm going to go longer. I do get a bit of "sausage thigh" with shorter shorts but it's the lesser of evils, so...

A 5-6" inseam is just about perfect since it's short enough to look good but long enough that my thighs don't chafe against eachother or the saddle. My favorite pair of shorts so far is the Sugoi Evolution Shorty shorts. They are the perfect length, the waistline has a flattering dip in front that prevents cutting into my digestion, and the fabric is really nice.

Nanci, you might want to look at the normal length Sugoi Evolution shorts. The Ricaro chamois is thick but firm, not mushy at all.

[Nanci]

Maybe...They all _look_ good, but when you get it out of the package in real life it's like 12 inches across.

I'd sure like to know what the $179 LG Airstreamor whatever it is that V has is like, though...

Nanci

[DirtDiva]

I have the same problem with baggies as a lot of companies seem to think all women want really short shorts, not me. I will be looking into buying some longer baggies for my biking holiday this year.

I saw some Scott ones in Evans that looked longer (maybe they were these ones..?), but they cost more than I had to spend (I think they were sixty/sixty-five quid), so I didn't look too closely, let alone try them on. I did try on some longer-ish Altura ones, but they didn't fit right - the liners were too big for the outers. I've tried on a lot of pairs of baggies where the liners don't seem to be made for the same person as the outers. What's up with that? there's some pretty basic physics involved in something that's going to fit inside something else needing to be the smaller of the two objects. I did eventually get some Oakleys for 40% off though. (They're shorter than I would have ideally liked, but they're not too bad on a pipsqueak like me.)

[bcipam]

For a long time I bought men's shorts cause they were longer - women's short tended to be very short (I'm 5'8" and have long thighs) for me. I have been buying Terry's long T-Short. Love them. The length is good if you are tall. Note its a fairly padded short but the padding "adhusts" after a ride. I still wear my short-shorts in spin class or in the summer when working on a tan - hate for all that white to start just above the knee!!!!

[im4smiley]

I like the short, shorts. I am short 5' even. I like the pearl izumi sugar short, 5" inseam, they are my favorites right now. I have a longer pair, cannondale, I don't like as much, not only are they longer but the waist seems to come up to my boobs!! I also have a shorter Desente pair but there is not much support. I need to buy more, I hate to have to do laundry all the time!

[Susan Otcenas]

I'd sure like to know what the $179 LG Airstreamor whatever it is that V has is like, though...

Nanci

Nanci, Veronica has these and is pretty happy with them. She's posted here about them before. (Veronica, didn't you do your recent double century in these?)

I have a pair too. I like to test ride as many of our shorts as possible, especially the more expensive ones so I can "compare and contrast". I've worn them several times and been extremely comfortable in them, even on longer rides. Haven't had a chance to wear them in really hot weather yet, and I think that's where they'll really excel. They have vents punched though them and I suspect they will get good airflow over the chamois on hot days. Should keep the chamois drier. On a completely aesthetic note, I love the lines - very flattering on me.

To keep this thread on track, though... My preference is about 7" inseam. At 5'4" , an 8" inseam is just a little too long. And 6" doesn't usually hit me in the right spot - I'm not a small girl (25" thighs) and I confess to being rather critical of them!

Susan

[Waverly]

I am 5'8 and don't like long or short shorts I KNOW that isn't much help! I like them to hit about mid thigh while I am in riding position. When I first started riding I liked Pearl Izumi but the pair I had wore out very quickly, and I don't dry them. Now I am very fond of Sheebeast. I can’t remember the exact style but I really like the chamois. I believe they are a 6" inseam. I do pull on them some but only when I am feeling insecure about my legs looking fat. I have to admit to tan line vanity as well!

Jessica

[KTeach]

I hate the way my thigh fat bulges out of shorter shorts! No matter how fit or thin I get I have flabby thighs! I'm only 5'2" and I LOVE Terry TShorts in the long length. I never had a problem with the chamois and wore them for more than one century ride. They reach just above my knee so tan lines aren't a problem and my thighs look great!

[fatbottomedgurl]

Maybe I need long ones for those I-feel-yucky-about-my-thighs days. (Okay I confess I just pulled out a tape measure...oh no not again.) And some shorties for when it is SoCal HOT and need to work on my shorts tan. However I am with Nanci and find myself not wearing shorts too often. But tan fat looks better than white.

[Lise]

This thread is so helpful! I purchased my shorts in near-complete ignorance, but this summer want to do some more informed shopping. My shorts are as follows:

1. The Canari ones I bought at Sportmart at least three years ago. They're getting kind of worn out and baggy. Inseam: 6"

2. The Sugoi Evolution ones I bought when TE had a special offer that you could get free arm warmers with them. They're my "long ride" shorts, d/t big chamois. As I say, I bought them because they looked like "real" bike shorts, and they came with arm warmers (which I believe I've worn exactly...once!) Inseam: 6"

3. My Zoot tri shorts, with a much thinner chamois so you aren't running with a wet diaper-like pad in a triathlon. Inseam: 6"

I really have no idea what I like vs. don't like. I wear so much sunscreen that, while I do tan, it's not that noticeable. I seldom wear anything that's as short as my bike shorts, anyways. I'm 5'8", with kind of long femurs, so I wear things that would be too long on a shorter woman. I may try a 7" inseam on a pair of shorts this summer, just to have the elastic hit a little below the blobby parts!

I'm going to use this thread to go look at various shorts on the web. Thanks for your help. I really didn't know what to look for or where to start.

[fatbottomedgurl]

My blobby parts stop at my knees. Familiar with the term "cupid knees"?

[Cari]

I'm a chubby 5'4" and prefer long shorts.

* 2005 PI Ultrasensors (8.5") are currently my shorts of choice for long rides, but they need to be replaced soon. When my knee is flexed they leave about 5 inches of skin exposed above my kneecap, but at least it my thighs look ok.

* I like a pair of Cannondale Domestique shorts that I got on sale from REI last year. For some reason they make my legs look great. They're about the same length as the Ultransensors (maybe longer) but the leg opening is pretty roomy and the leg gripper is fabric, not silicone or bare elastic. But I don't think the chamois is appropriate for very long rides.

Come to think of it, one of my main problems with shorts is with the leg opening being too tight. I found some LG Ergo Sensors on sale here with a chamois that was surprisingly similar to the one on my PI's. But I'll have to return them because even though I bought a size larger than I normally wear, they're a bit short and the elastic at the leg is way too tight. *sigh*

I prefer knickers because those 5 or so inches of exposed skin above my knee feel like sizzling bacon when I'm out riding for 4 hours in the hot sun. My dad had some small skin lesions on his forehead from years of playing tennis and going to the beach, so I don't want to take any chances with the sun. And of course, knickers make my legs look way better than any short can. It's obviously pretty hot most of the time here in Puerto Rico, but as long as most of my lower leg is exposed, I'm ok. Unfortunately, I still haven't found knickers that will feel comfortable after several hours on the saddle.

* Shebeest's Pedal Pushers were great, but I had issues with the chamois.

* Shebeest Shindiggers have a great design, but the chamois isn't for long rides. They've already survived a couple of falls, so I know the fabric is durable.

* I ordered PI's new Sugar Knicker from TE, but the rise is so short (4" from the front edge of the chamois to the edge of the waistband) that I feel like I need a bikini wax just so I can wear them in public! The chamois looked like it could do the job, though, but since I'm not sure I want to keep them, I haven't taken them for a ride.

* Got a deal on some Castelli Zen 2 knickers and they fit well, but the chamois was a lot thinner than I expected, and the fabric looks a bit delicate.

So if any of you gals have some suggestions for nicely padded knickers, bibs, or long-ish shorts with ample leg openings (and with enough of a rise to cover my navel), please let me know.

Oh, and sorry for the long post. I take my shorts seriously.

~ Cari

[Dianyla]

* I ordered PI's new Sugar Knicker from TE, but the rise is so short (4" from the front edge of the chamois to the edge of the waistband) that I feel like I need a bikini wax just so I can wear them in public!

I just tried these on and bought some at my LBS. I felt rather unsure about the very low rise in front, but then I decided to try cinching the drawstring a little bit. I've never ever used the drawstring on shorts or tights in the past. In fact I always wondered why they even have drawstrings! Anyway, with a lightly tightened drawstring the Sugar knickers are better. They are still awfully low rise when standing up straight (and me, with a potbelly!) but cinched, with a longer jersey and bent over on a bike they're great. I have a very sensitive stomach and I frequently get digestive complaints if something is too tight on my waist.

[caligurl]

if the chamois on the sugar knickers is the same as the chamois on the sugar shorts.. i HATE that chamois! IMHO... i might as well not even wear a chamois it's THAT thin! (for comparison..... i LOVE the chamois in performance ultra shorts)

[fatbottomedgurl]

I guess everyone is different. I have the sugar knickers and the rise hits me an inch below my naval. I think the chamois is on the huge size but its comfortable. Heh - diaper butt - heh heh.

Anyone wear the InSport Stamina Cycle Short? I love the red panel down the side -- slimming. Is it a mid rise short? Th chamois looks very interesting with special WSD cutouts for the naughty bits...