You, know the Primal Wear basic shorts used to be my favorites. They had a nice chamois- not too thick, not too thin, just nice hourglass- (but not extreme) shaped padding. I don't know what they've done to it in the years since I bought any, but they have _very_ tough, supportive, flab-hiding, not see-through lycra, nice 8-panel construction, high-ish rise, no diaper-butt.

Nanci