Bont Shoes -- experiences...fit...?

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I have a love/hate relationship with my men's LG CFS-300 road shoes. They are about the best fit I have found, but are still a bit narrow once my feet swell (which happens on any longer, warm weather ride). I am stuck wearing thin socks, too. It's not so much that the upper is snug as it is the base of the shoe is too narrow, so my feet spill over and I get hot spots and cramping around my peroneal tendons area (particularly on my wider/larger right foot). I have the mtn bike version of the shoe (the T-Flex 300), which seems to run short and I may bump up a size in these (though it's a relatively big bump, since they only do full sizes until maybe 41.5 and I currently wear a 40, so I'd have to jump to a 41). I like the mtn. shoes, since the toe area still bends a bit and they are awesome for CX races. I also don't generally ride off-road long enough for the cramping to set-in, though being able to wear a heavier sock would be nice.

I'm sorta looking at Bonts, at least for my road shoes. When I use their fit wizard thingy it recommends a men's 40 WIDE for me. There are definitely no deals to be had in this size (and, jeebuz, some Bont models are $$$), so I wonder if the regular width 40 might work, since Bonts are already a wider toe-box shoe.

Any experience with these...?

[OakLeaf]

I don't know about Bont, but you might also look at Lake. No idea if the new Lake shoes fit the same as the old ones, but they're keeping the old model numbers and also coming out with a CX-specific shoe next month. The old ones at least had a very square toe box, the new ones are still available in wide, best fit I've found for my flippers.

[ny biker]

I like my Bontrager shoes, but I was only looking for something wider in the toe box than Sidi, since my feet often fit in regular-width shoes.

At a minimum, there is a 30-day guarantee, so you can return them if you wear them and then decide you don't like them. And there might actually be a 60-day guarantee period on the shoes -- check with the dealer.

I have these:

http://www.bontrager.com/model/09597

I do find that I can't fasten the Velcro straps all the way over as they are shown in Bontrager's photo. I need them looser than that.

The buckle is very easy to loosen while riding if my feet swell on a hot day.

I usually wear pretty thin socks -- DeFeet Aereator or Wooleator. I haven't tried my Woolie Boolie socks in the new shoes yet.

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This is the thing...all the reviews I read of my current shoes is that they tend to run on the wide side. I tried a pair of Northwaves back in the day, since everyone said they run wide, but found the only thing wide on those to be the heels. I'm guessing all WSD shoes are off the table. A women's medium is a B and I am at least a D width (men's medium -- I even wear men's Nike Free running shoes, because the women's are vise-like), if not a EE. My husband wears a men's 11 (4 full sizes than my sizing in men's shoes) and his foot is only 6mm wider than mine. I have flippers.

[OakLeaf]

Well if you can wear Nike Free at all, your feet are way narrow compared to mine. I have to go up one size in freakin' Lems to get them wide enough. My running shoes are men's EEEE at least two sizes too long. But I can wear Lake.

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Well if you can wear Nike Free at all, your feet are way narrow compared to mine. I have to go up one size in freakin' Lems to get them wide enough. My running shoes are men's EEEE at least two sizes too long. But I can wear Lake.

And Nike Frees are relatively wide -- or at least they were until recently. I could wear the Free Run+ 3 in women's, but when they discontinued that shoe and replaced it with the Free 5.0 they completely changed the fit. The sole is the same, but the upper is WAY narrower. Fortunately the men's fits about like the women's used to fit. Not sure how the Free 4.0 or 3.0 fit. I had always heard those were narrower. I must say I miss my NB 902s. They came in wides and the women's wides were WIDE! Then NB changed all their lasts from SL-1 to PL-1 and I haven't had any luck with any of their shoes since. The NB Minimus line looks interesting, but is super narrow and curved. My feet are freaky straight.

In regular shoes I live in Keens and Dansko. Dress shoes...forget it!