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  1. #1
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    Yeah.. I think you'd abandon your Oma or Bakfiets pretty quickly if you moved here.... (Seattle). I tow a trailer around here occasionally and I can tell you that there are hills that it is seriously difficult for even me (rather fit, seasoned rider, bike racer and hill climber) to pull that thing up. You'd have to plan your trips very, very well or confine yourself to a rather small area to avoid coming across places that would likely stymie the type of rider she wants to encourage.

    There's a guy down the street from me who takes cool old Schwinns and converts them to geared with internal rear hubs. It takes that to really make them usable around here...

    Probably wouldn't be too workable where I grew up (Pittsburgh) either... but where I went to college (Rochester, NY) was dead flat. Probably would be OK in a place like that. Still a bit spread out though..
    Last edited by Eden; 06-23-2013 at 09:44 AM.
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    I didn't mean to "dump & run" when I started this thread

    It is very true that terrain/topography has a huge impact on how "bikable" a community is, as marni articulated very well. The Netherlands is a very densely populated country, and almost all the essentials are "nearby." I still remember when I first moved to the U.S. and brought my Dutch bike - it was pretty fancy (I thought) because it had three speeds! I was shocked at how hard it was to power that thing up the hills around here. And the nearest store was far away! Didn't use that bike much, and didn't bring it with me the second time I moved here (permanently that time).

    But on the other hand, you have to start somewhere and there are places in the U.S. where it not only makes sense, but is already in development and in some communities many improvements have already taken place. In my own hilly city, where 12 years ago I had things thrown at me the first day I commuted by bike, it is much more common now to see cycling commuters and noticeable efforts have been made to improve the cycling infrastructure. Room for improvement will always remain. But even where it might make sense due to terrain and population density, there remains a huge obstacle in convincing the majority of taxpayers in our car-oriented society, who still think of cycling as merely recreation, to cough up the kind of money needed for really substantial and wide-spread infrastructure changes. I expect that it will always be an uphill battle.

    Here is an interesting (and encouraging) video of the flip side: Americans looking at cycling in the Netherlands. nuliajuk, Rotterdam is mentioned in this video as well. I got the video off this blog page, which has a couple of other fun videos to watch: http://bicycledutch.wordpress.com/20...-by-the-dutch/

 

 

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