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    I've read where the higher SPF numbers are basically fiction anyway. Mine stays on all day if I need it to, and survives heavy sweating. Doesn't take much to give me all the protection I need. I have never burned when I've started the day with this, and my nose stays the same color as the rest of my face, which is a feat.

    I do avoid all sunblocks when I can, so basically that goes on my nose, neck and cheekbones, and on my ears if I'm running. Tops of my feet if I'm going to be out all day long in sandals. For the rest of it I rely on a hat or visor and cooling sleeves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OakLeaf View Post
    I've read where the higher SPF numbers are basically fiction anyway. Mine stays on all day if I need it to, and survives heavy sweating. Doesn't take much to give me all the protection I need. I have never burned when I've started the day with this, and my nose stays the same color as the rest of my face, which is a feat.

    I do avoid all sunblocks when I can, so basically that goes on my nose, neck and cheekbones, and on my ears if I'm running. Tops of my feet if I'm going to be out all day long in sandals. For the rest of it I rely on a hat or visor and cooling sleeves.
    How well do those cooling sleeves work? And what sort of highs are typical for you? I've been considering the sleeves, but I'm wondering which would be, well, cooler in upper 90's temps and "cut yerself a slice of air" humidity. I'd prefer the sun protection of a clothing product, but I also have to consider the heat.
    "Susie" - 2012 Specialized Ruby Apex, not pink/Selle SMP Lite 209

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    Quote Originally Posted by luvmyguys View Post
    How well do those cooling sleeves work? And what sort of highs are typical for you? I've been considering the sleeves, but I'm wondering which would be, well, cooler in upper 90's temps and "cut yerself a slice of air" humidity. I'd prefer the sun protection of a clothing product, but I also have to consider the heat.

    Muirenn's in higher heat and humidity than I am, but I've used both my Zoot and my DeSoto sleeves in the low 90s with humidity in the high 60%s (which is a higher water content in the atmosphere than what it sounds like, at those temperatures ). I *have* ripped them off my arms to find out whether it was any cooler without them ... and it isn't.

    I haven't used Craft. Zoot and DeSoto are very different construction, but they seem to work equally well, for the most part. I don't like the way the DeSoto sleeves fit, is all. I think the DeSoto sleeves work better when they're dry, but that's not for long, the way I sweat.

    My personal experience is that neither pair of sleeves provides much *additional* cooling effect once they get waterlogged. But they're no hotter than bare arms, and I've never burned through them.


    ETA: with the wind cooling of cycling, they actually are cooler than bare arms. Also for spectator events when I'm not sweating heavily, if you can stand the geekiness. I'm speaking mainly to running, where the evaporative effect is a lot less.
    Last edited by OakLeaf; 06-13-2013 at 09:59 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muirenn View Post
    I'm on the South East Coast. Get them.

    Just got Craft brand. No arm grippers. Wonderful! Also consider the De Soto Cool Wings. They run small in length through the back, so size up for more coverage.

    The very lightweight, breathable jerseys with cap sleeves that zip up in front are what I'm using now. This way I'm covered, and can reduce sunscreen, which actually keeps me cooler.

    Edit: Typical high? Hmmm. I think yesterday, the high was 98, with the heat index, it was more like 110. Unfortunately, this is typical.
    These Craft coolers?

    I've got a bolero for cold weather, and I wasn't crazy about the fit - tight across the back, but way too long in the arms. I think I'll be sticking to separated sleeves.

    Thanks for the data point! Glad they work!
    "Susie" - 2012 Specialized Ruby Apex, not pink/Selle SMP Lite 209

 

 

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