I rode a Terry Butterfly for the last three seasons. I liked it reasonably well (I did over 4000 miles last year) but I wanted something different. Also I had to purchase one each season since the center appears to breakdown by the end of the season for me. I purchased the Arione this season and so far it is butt numbing on the trainer but feels really good on the road. I like the extra firmness, narrowness, & length of this saddle plus the lack of cutout did not bother me. But everyone is different when it comes to saddles.

Susan