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  1. #1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crankin View Post
    My comments stem from the fact that there are some people, as Itself alluded to, where genetics trump everything when dealing with these issues and others, like Goldfinch, and myself somewhat, where dietary changes have made no difference. I'm not on any medication, but at age 35 my total cholesterol was 160. At 40 it was 180. At 45, it was 245! I was exercising vigorously and eating well, although not as well as I do now. I started cycling and just from that (and giving up on my old forms of exercise) it went down to 220. It hasn't gone down much from that, about 217. However, it did raise my HDL to such a high level (70-100), that my ratio is excellent and no doctor will think of putting me on meds, despite the overall total that is about 20 points too high. I've tried every type of eating and nothing changes.
    On the other hand, no amount of changes in diet/exercise would have prevented my DH from having 2 80% blockages, after 5 years of cycling 3-4K a year, and making huge dietary changes, and being on bp and cholesterol lowering drugs for a year. Maybe, if he had started when he was 18; the genetics were so bad, we are just waiting for all 3 of his siblings to have some "event," as they are all overweight, 2 are extremely sedentary, and they don't eat well, either.
    My cholesterol is also 225, but my NP said that my HDL and LDL are so ridiculously good that I need not worry. There is some thought around the total number having less importance.
    Lisa

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    The cholesterol levels of people eating the meat type Paleo diet does make me curious. I wonder if my friend that's doing it has had his checked, hmm. I have not had mine checked in a while, but I assume it would be good.

    I love my little NutriBullet gadget that keeps the fiber in it. One reason I was never a juice drinker before is that the quick absorption and increase in my blood sugar would always make me sick.

    I know you can use a bag to help dispose of the bits spit out (w/juicer), but it just looked like a lot of waste and clean up. OTT, my bestie seems to love hers (juicer machine) tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miranda View Post
    it just looked like a lot of waste and clean up.
    That's why you want a quality juicer - that will (1) grind the vegetables slowly so as not to heat them, (2) grind them thoroughly to break up all the cell walls, and (3) press the mash under high pressure to extract the most juice possible. There's little waste, because what comes out of the end of the juicer was just going to come out of the end of you, anyway ... and if you ate it, it would take a lot of the nutrients with it. So effectively, juicing with a quality appliance could really be *less* wasteful than eating the whole veggies.

    And I *always* read the cleaning instructions before investing in a kitchen appliance of any kind. Some are easy, some not so much. If a juicer doesn't disassemble to the point where the only real effort is brushing out the screen, I wouldn't buy it, either.
    Speed comes from what you put behind you. - Judi Ketteler

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    The centrifugal juicers are not good. Dr Gerson uses the Norwalk juicer, but this is way overpriced. I have been looking at the Champion juicer and the Samson juicer and will be purchasing the Samson. Dr Gerson believes in using a juicer to remove the fiber so that the fiber doesn't fill you up, and thus you can drink more juice. The Vitamix I have is gret for protein drinks but over oxidizes fruits and vegetables.
    Lisa

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    There are a number of good reviews of juicers on YouTube. So if you want to see how easy they are to use or to clean or which juicers are better at juicing fruits or veggies, you might check there. I found this guy's videos helpful and he sells a number of juicers online.

    You can also read the reviews on Amazon for specific juicers too.
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    Yes, the Breville Juice Fountain Crush is the only one in their line that is not a centrifugal juicer. For me, companies like Breville are "the jack of all trades, and master of none." They do have a ten year warrantee on this juicer, and it is SUPER nice! But I am still leaning towards the Samson as this is all they make, and they have a great reputation.
    Lisa

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    I've stayed away from Breville appliances ever since the espresso maker I bought DH one Christmas started putting out black smoke on its second use ... and company support, after taking his phone number "in case we get disconnected," never called him back after they were mysteriously disconnected ...
    Speed comes from what you put behind you. - Judi Ketteler

 

 

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