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  1. #16
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    Congratulations Kiwi Stoker!

    I don't know the answer to your question because I'm just trying to figure it out myself. DS is 9 months old and weighs 15 pounds. Right now he is starting to get really mobile -- quite a bit of pre-crawling, so one consideration is that I do want to make sure he gets a significant amount of his own "playtime" so that he can move around and develop his motor skills. Spending hours confined in a baby carrier or a stroller or carseat or bike trailer might not be conducive to that.

    Right now he will nap for 40+ minutes in the afternoon, in a stroller or strapped to me in a carrier, when I take the dog for his walk. If I didn't have to walk the dog I would probably be exploring some kind of bike trailer option right now. Also, he still needs to eat quite frequently. The logistics go something like this: feed (20-40 minutes), change diaper, feed myself and use restroom, change diaper again, get dressed for going outside if I'm not already, clean up mess that baby made while I was taking care of myself (latest trick is to overturn a pitcher of water that we keep on the coffee table - which means yet another new diaper and a new outfit), make sure diaper bag is stocked, bundle up baby and strap him to me, or carry stroller down steps and strap baby in. So by the time we are ready to start our walk we may have at most 1.5 hours before he needs to eat again. So when we are out I either need to find some place warm and dog-friendly where I can nurse the baby or I have to get home. Yesterday we had him out with us in central London for about 5 hours. He did okay, but didn't nap like he usually does, so that had repercussions for our evening routine.

    So basically at this stage I could see doing short, < 2-hour rides with the baby. Of course this means I would need to go bike shopping, since I left all my bikes in the US.

    One question I have about bike trailers is whether or not they allow a baby to sit rear-facing. For car seats it is recommended (required in some places) that kids sit rear-facing until at least 2 years of age, because of the neck stability issues that others have mentioned. Given that you could get up to a decent clip even trailing a fair amount of weight, I'm wondering if rear-facing might also be a good idea for bike trailers. I'm pretty sure I've only seen forward-facing on the street, but I haven't done a whole lot of research.
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  2. #17
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    We used a Burley Solo trailer and a small reclining car seat that we strapped securely to the base frame of the trailer. It could equally well have faced backwards, but since the seat reclines so much that he was practically lying down I doubt it would have made much difference. The car seat took so much space that a regular size seat wouldn't fit, though, so when he outgrew the small one we put him straight into the built-in trailer seat. Which was pretty hammocky and gave poor support, to tell you the truth, especially with a bike helmet stuck on top... I think I would just count on keeping to a safe speed.

    One thing that we never bought but I really wish we had was the add-on single wheel thingy for older kids, where they can pedal for themselves or just sit and enjoy the ride. I think it would have been a blast to have!
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  3. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by lph View Post
    One thing that we never bought but I really wish we had was the add-on single wheel thingy for older kids, where they can pedal for themselves or just sit and enjoy the ride. I think it would have been a blast to have!
    Our neighbors back in Seattle had a custom-built triple tandem built for this purpose. Not sure how old the girl was when they got it -- maybe 6 to 8 -- and she is now a young teenager. She has grown quite a bit, but they have been able to adjust the bike to keep up with her!
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  4. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiwi Stoker View Post
    I guess I am looking for reassurance that I can still enjoy a cycle ride regularly and have a child at the same time. Because other ladies I have meet either stop riding entirely when the baby comes or have taken up riding after their children are older/left home.
    I am sorry if I came across as negative in my last post. When I talk about babe's temperament, I was just saying that whatever we might plan, there is another brand new human with their own personality that may affect our "best laid plans". Nobody can give any reassurances because every baby is different. Any reassurance would be false. Unfortunately, you just have to wait and see.

    I did have to stop riding entirely. I have a child that did and still kind of does, get sick from motion. It was extreme when she was younger. I won't bore you with details, but my riding plans went out the window for a few years when I became a mother because I couldn't take her with me (she'd scream and throw up) and I couldn't leave her (she was a marathon nurser).

    I hear the same thing you are hearing - for a multitude of reasons (children who don't nap, are very active and won't sit still in a trailer or seat, nurse 'round the clock, etc.) riding has to be abandoned for a period of time. But boy are they worth it. I hope your child is one that naps well, doesn't nurse all the time, is not motion sick, and entertains him/herself well. Nobody told me this stuff and I was in for the surprise of my life. I wish someone had warned me that my ideal was likely not going to happen.

    Now, I'm working on getting her brave enough to dive with me. Thought I'd get myself a dive buddy after 16 years or so, and now that we're a few years away from that, I find that she has NO interest in the water. Bummer. They do have their own ideas!!

    Best of luck, but keep an open mind. And again, congratulations!!

    ETA: She also didn't want to learn to ride a bike until she was 10 because of the motion sickness... so I REALLY had to change my plans! LOL!
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    I really don't want to sound negative, etc., but ah, while it's understandable one couldn't ride with a child in a trailer because of all of the above things mentioned, what about just continuing riding alone, even if it's for short jaunts? While long rides and regular group stuff might be out for awhile, regular exercise is one thing that keeps away post partum depression and helps a mom keep her sanity and self-identity. Although I didn't ride when my kids were babies and young children, I did go to the gym 6 days a week. I was back there 3 weeks postpartum with both of them; it was my escape, if only for a little over an hour.
    I know everyone's different, but I made a vow not to let having kids turn me into someone I wasn't. I know it sounds selfish to some, but I had a lot of experience taking care of babies and kids, as well as a few years of teaching experience when i had my first child, so I had a pretty clear idea of baby "stuff." DH and I made the decision that our relationship always came first in the family, and together, we would deal with the kid stuff. This worked for us, as we each maintained our lives apart from the family, but we had lots of fun while they grew up. I do sincerely regret that we didn't do the outdoor stuff with them, although all 4 of us developed these types of interests later. Both of my kids are awesome endurance type athletes as adults and enjoy hiking, camping, and swimming.
    I just wish that I had strapped them into a backpack and gone hiking in AZ, instead of getting a sitter and going to the gym! Doing this kind of stuff just wasn't in my head, and I really wish it had been.
    I just don't like it when prospective parents think that their life has to be over...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crankin View Post
    I just don't like it when prospective parents think that their life has to be over...
    Who said life has to be over? It's riding a bike. Life doesn't have to be over, but quite reasonably, expectations and activities may have to change. That's not "life over" and it sure isn't negative. It's just change. I don't like it when people tell prospective parents that life won't change when kids come along. It invariably will, but nobody can predict how it will or to what degree. Thinking of various scenarios is not negative, it's pragmatic.
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    [QUOTE=Crankin;668306]I really don't want to sound negative, etc., but ah, while it's understandable one couldn't ride with a child in a trailer because of all of the above things mentioned, what about just continuing riding alone, even if it's for short jaunts?

    Unfortunately as I mentioned before, we don't have family or friends here able to care for our baby, we would have to find/pay for a babysitter which for early weekend mornings could be an issue. Also causual day care facilities are only avaibale during the week, so not much hope there. Just trying to find out all the options. Cycling is something I enjoy with my husband and going out by myself isn't fun.

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    I hope you figure out good options! We found out that going out all of us together was great fun, but was often a logistics problem and many trips were cut short either in time or distance. Not a problem, unless you're counting on going on the same trips as before, consciously or subconsciously. Training efficiently we did best by ourselves.

    I think this is really the thing I learned most about becoming a parent, how to structure my life and prioritize. Before we could just go out and maybe we did this, maybe we did that. Or I could just feel like a long run or ride and just go for it, without any planning. But we developed new habits and routines that worked for us, like most people. It was just a bit frustrating in the beginning until we worked it out.

    One of my favourite memories of when my son was tiny is of us XC skiing in the woods where we lived, with baby in a soft baby carrier made for carrying in front, slung on my dh's back and covered with a jacket, as he set off down a hill. I refused to, because my skiing skills are poorer and I was afraid I'd fall, but he was convinced he would stay on his feet (and he did).

    I wish you lots of luck. The feeling when they get a little bigger and start really enjoying the world around them is just amazing :-)

    ETA: Forgive me if I'm being a bit sentimental here, but I just stumbled over a couple of old photos. For a small child a swing in the park is just as awesome as a climbing trip halfway across the country:

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    Last edited by lph; 01-31-2013 at 10:17 PM.
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  9. #24
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    Cycling is something I enjoy with my husband and going out by myself isn't fun.
    I cannot speak about children here (because I don't have any)....but my partner has 2 children. Even when his kids were 10 & 12, he did find he needed to go cycling for 1-2 hrs. on his own on weekends.

    Some of us are in life circumstances that our partners aren't always around for days or for several weeks. So we do go cycling by ourselves: we have no choice if we want to remain healthy/sane or need to get somewhere by bike. Even finding a friend to cycle together doesn't happen that often for some of us.

    The good thing, kiwi, is that you have a partner who also cycles: he would already understand your need to bicycle either with him or on your own. Some other couples have problems when only 1 cycles solo often.

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    I mostly ride with my husband, too, but I absolutely believe in the need to get away for at least 45 minutes on your own, for everyone, but especially for new mothers! I might not go as far or as long (generally rides of 15-25 miles) by myself, but I'm still riding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irulan View Post
    A few years ago a family of five rode across the US. I think their "parade" lol included a tandem with a trailabike but I'm not sure. I bet one of our google wizards can find the link.
    Was it the Pedouins you were thinking of?
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  12. #27
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    And beautiful mom in the moment with the kid, and someone behind the camera right there too!
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    I'll chime in a little late with my own experience. We have a 1 1/2 year old and did have several good rides this past summer with him in a trailer (the recommendation in the US is to wait until age 1- we used the trailer for cross country skiing starting at 6 months, but waited until he was 1 before we attached it to a bike).

    As an aside, we have a Chariot trailer and have been very happy with it. It's extremely well designed. He is forward facing but the set up and harness are great and it seems like it would be very hard for DS to be injured in anything other than a car accident.

    This was our experience- overall, we've done a lot more cycling/exercising individually since our son was born. It's often just easier to take turns while the other watches our son. The down side is that we don't get to ride together as much and we both do shorter rides than we would have before our son was born, but it's just often easier for us to take turns and know we'll each get some exercise time. We had a lot of luck riding in the morning during my son's nap time between the ages of 12 and 14 months (though that said we never did ride as long as we used to). At about 14 months, he needed to drop the morning nap (and what this meant is that we couldn't let him fall asleep in the AM- if he did, he wouldn't be tired enough for a midday nap, and if he didn't get his midday nap, the end of the day was a complete disaster). So we had to give up the morning rides with the trailer at that point. While we could have ridden later in the day, we both simply prefer to exercise in the morning and opted for riding separately again. I expect we'll get out there again next summer when he's 2 and the nap schedule is a little different (it's currently winter here and we're not riding anyway).

    So overall, you can have really good rides together with a trailer. But, you may need to be very flexible about timing, and probably won't be able to go as far as you used to. If you're set on doing lots of long rides with your husband, I'd look in to finding a good babysitter. Whatever you think you want to do, you may find that things change when you have the baby- as long as you and your husband are both committed to getting out together, it will happen- but you may find you're happy with shorter rides (at least for a few years).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crankin View Post
    I mostly ride with my husband, too, but I absolutely believe in the need to get away for at least 45 minutes on your own, for everyone, but especially for new mothers! I might not go as far or as long (generally rides of 15-25 miles) by myself, but I'm still riding.
    I wasn't into biking (or any other sports, for that matter) when my kids were babies, but oh, yes, I so agree with this! Maybe some moms don't need it as much, but I most certainly did. At the time, I'd go hang out at Starbucks with a craft or a good book. Exercise is even better, of course, but yes, time out was very necessary in my case.
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    I'm pretty lucky for have a 24 hour access gym 750m away from my house, so at least I can "escape" rain, hail or shine whenever DH is home to look after bubs. Also the local library is only 1.5km away as well and opens late.

 

 

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