DH bought me 2 pair of the RS shorts when TE had that sale a few months ago. Although they look exactly the same as the 2 pair I bought last winter, as well as some older ones I have, I found that the chamois seems a little wider, right where it meets the crease of my legs, and was annoying. Washing them has softened them out a little, but since I haven't ridden that much since I got them, they haven't been used a lot. It's not as bad as the Gore chamois in pair of tights I bought from someone on TE. Those were so wide, they were definitely an instrument of torture for me. I think I mentioned this on another thread and someone said Sugoi had quality control issues. The waistband and length were still the same, though and I am hoping they will soften up.