I'm just curious. Where does the apprehension about clipping out come from? Lots of folks have posted about it, so it seems to be a big concern to new riders. I went from cages to clips v and clips have always seemed like a much safer ride.

I've only used SPDs so can only speak about those pedals. If they are set up and adjusted properly they are very easy to get out of. I just kick my heel out slightly and they're out. Knock on wood - I've never dumped my road bike (mountain bike is a different story ) and on a few occasions I've even kept the tandem from going over when things have not gone as planned by getting my foot out. I think it's a pretty natural motion. The more you practice on the trainer, the more natural it will seem to you.

The Terry Butterfly saddle has a yellow butterfly on it. Lots of women like that saddle. I have one on my mountain bike, but prefer the Brooks Finesse that I have on my Riv and on the tandem.


Veronica