Quote Originally Posted by Crankin View Post
I wore my winter mountain shoes Saturday, first time with my Frogs. My left foot was flying out of the pedal like crazy, especially on climbs. So, I am deducing the issue is the cleat, not the actual mechanism on the pedal. I kept my heels turned inward and it still happened. I could also hear and feel the cleat engage with the pedal.
DH reminded me that the Frog cleats do not fit very well into the PI winter shoes and he had to carve the area out to get them into the shoe. These shoes worked well with spds. My Frog cleats on my regular mtb shoes have settled in, though I still have to remind myself to keep the heels in. I have the cleats also installed on my Keen cycling sandals and I am too nervous to try these.
I will be searching for the mountain version of the winter shoes that I have for my road pedals; I couldn't find them in my size last year, so hopefully this will be a better fit with the Frogs.
We have learned recently that the bolts on the Frog cleats are quite soft and strip very easily. My LBS has had to order new bolts for mine, though we have them working like new for now I would say if he had to do surgery on the shoes to get the larger Frogs to fit then that is quite likely what the problem is. I hope the Keens work for you - back when I was still riding SPD pedals I tried them in my Keen cycling sandals and was most unhappy with the experiment as I found the Keens to be too soft - the sandals collapsed around the pedal. I also found them much harder to clip in/out of then my normal riding shoe and figured it was for the same reason. You may have a different experience than I did, I know there are women here who love clipping in with those sandals.