You mention that you wouldn't use them in the group, but many people think they're dangerous just being on the bike - in an accident, it's possible to really hurt the rider in front - was on a ride that had that happen - it wasn't pretty. That being said, I added aerobars to my road bikes for long, endurance rides - 120 miles and up. It helps give lots of muscles a break, but only when no other riders are around.