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    Often I can go back to sleep if I wake up too early. So maybe I have to go to bed even earlier... Which will be quite early.

    Oak: I can train my body to wake up at specific times ...to ie. catch an early train or start a super early bike ride..@4:30 am. I used to leave home for a previous workplace site...@5:15 am. I've been like this for most of my adult life. I rarely need an alarm clock. But do at least need a bed clock.

    With some of these annoying too early wake-ups, I get a mild short hot flash for 2-3 min. Which has not been the norm for me but then going into menopause isn't totally smooth either.

    It is rare for me to go to bed at ....midnight or so.
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    I struggle with sleep problems sometimes, usually caused by too much stress or too many things to think about. They don't have to be negative things, just my head being busy. I'm usually a light sleeper, but stress will cause me to sleep even lighter, wake up at any disturbance, or wake up at the end of every sleep cycle, if I've understood my sleep theory. It sounds like you may have a sleep cycle that ends about 2:30, and you're having trouble getting into the next one. I believe it's common for one's core temperature to rise a little at the end of a sleep cycle too, so the hot flashes may be "telling" your body to wake up.

    Right now we're selling a house which means busy evenings meeting new people and having to remember lots of little details, and I have to sleep with an eye mask and ear plugs every night. Truth be told I'd love to sleep completely alone a night once in a while because I sleep a lot better then, but I haven't had the heart to suggest that to my dh yet :-)

    Not having an alarm clock or using a different one can make me sleep worse as well, I can be incredibly sensitive to any subconscious idea that I need to "pay attention" rather than just relax and go to sleep.
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    That is my life..for the last 3 years. Go to bed, fall asleep well and quickly and then wake up at around the same time 0230--315, toss and turn until it's time to get up. It's totally peri-menopause's fault. I have what I consider pretty good "sleep hygiene" habits - no caffeine after noon, eat well, exercise a lot and try not to do it too late, go to bed at the same time, try to wake up at the same time, bedroom is cool and dark, cover my clock, have a fan going for white noise. I rarely watch tv. My only downfall would be computer use before bed, but I don't always do that. I'm planning on getting some Gunnar glasses for computer use in the evening. I do notice that when I get my period- that first night is toally bliss and I get the best sleep.

    LPH, don't feel bad about sleeping by yourself either. I do it a lot. My sleep is so miserable -I wake up so easily and DH has myoclonic jerks, snores, rubs his whiskers in his sleep- all which makes my poor sleep even worse. DH totally gets it. Many girlfriends I have spoken to sleep alone (sometimes) as well. I think this is something that is more common than you think, people just don't want to admit it.


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    I was/am in the same boat. A year ago, I was getting up every morning at 4:25 AM. I would toss and turn until about 5:30 AM, only to have my alarm go off at 6:00. I had no problem going to sleep but I had an issue staying asleep. It really started affecting my life as I was constantly tired, had no energy and was always on edge. I went to the Dr and she actually gave me a 10 day supply of sleeping pills. She said that my natural body clock was off (due to stress as I was going through a stressful situation at the time) and I just needed to get it back on track. I ended up using 3 of the sleeping pills and it worked. I would not recommend sleeping pills for everyone as I know they are highly addictive, but they worked for me.

    Recently, the same thing started happening again. I think it's because I've been exercising at night (9:15-10:00) and I have a very big presentation for work coming up that I'm nervous about. I'm hoping that after the presentation, I'll go back to normal.

    I do find that when I wake up, I'm usually extremely hot so it could have something to do with that as well.

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    Extended release melatonin. Take it from a night shifter

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    Melatonin has worked for several of my clients, both adult and children. The psychiatrist I work with recommends it a lot.
    I could never exercise at 9 PM. In fact, if I exercise after 4-5 PM, it will keep me up.
    I find it ironic that 4:30 AM is "waking up early," for most. I wake up at that time, regularly, especially in the summer, when I ride early. I get up at 4:50 2 days a week all year, to go to the gym at 5:30. I go out and ride at 5-5:30 at least one day a week, until the snow flies. Other days I sleep until 6 or so, but when I stopped teaching, it felt very indulgent to sleep to 7 AM as I started doing (and staying up later). I go to bed around 10-10:30 and have no trouble getting up early.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crankin View Post
    Melatonin has worked for several of my clients, both adult and children. The psychiatrist I work with recommends it a lot.
    I could never exercise at 9 PM. In fact, if I exercise after 4-5 PM, it will keep me up.
    I find it ironic that 4:30 AM is "waking up early," for most. I wake up at that time, regularly, especially in the summer, when I ride early. I get up at 4:50 2 days a week all year, to go to the gym at 5:30. I go out and ride at 5-5:30 at least one day a week, until the snow flies. Other days I sleep until 6 or so, but when I stopped teaching, it felt very indulgent to sleep to 7 AM as I started doing (and staying up later). I go to bed around 10-10:30 and have no trouble getting up early.
    I normally rise at 4 am during the week, and settle down at night shortly before 10:00, earlier if I am tired. I've long had problems both going to sleep and staying asleep, so I've been experimenting recently with winding down an hour or so before bed. No electronic stimulation for at least a full hour - two hours is better, I lower my lights and I installed Flux on my computer that automatically dims/changes the tint on my monitor an hour before scheduled sunset. I've been told it works even better to move to candlelight that last hour as apparently the color of candlelight doesn't interfere the way that bright white light does, but I've not gone that far. The result is I am now sleeping until my alarm goes off, and going to sleep is much easier. I started all of this at the same time I started my Primal/Paleo experiment a month ago (which is no longer an experiment but permanent) so it is difficult to know if it is a combination of giving up all grains which certainly does change my insulin patterns or just my particular style of winding down. Low blood sugar can also wake us up at night. I also try to sleep in during the weekend without an alarm, but am generally up by 6:30. I cannot exercise any later than 7:00 or I can't get to sleep.
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