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    Metz massacre.

    I hate stages like this.
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    This year and last year... no patron, no supremely controlling team - lots more risk taking, lots more nervousness, too many crashes...

    Peter Sagan really is quite amazing though, isn't he.... only 22 and he might be able to keep that green
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    I don't remember a tour with this many crashes. It's really mind-boggling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eden View Post
    This year and last year... no patron, no supremely controlling team - lots more risk taking, lots more nervousness, too many crashes...

    Peter Sagan really is quite amazing though, isn't he.... only 22 and he might be able to keep that green
    So my DH just read a tweet that said Peter Sagan started the race this morning with a BELL on his handlebars. A Cycling News interview shows him explaining it was because the peloton was dangerous, and "also for fun, ringa dinga dinga". I need to find a photo of that one.

    He is making this years tour more fun to watch. Love it when they don't take themselves so seriously.
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    Bell

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    Peter Sagan's bell. A new trend for pro's?
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    I have to say I am in awe of many cyclists, who do an effort to learn additional languages. Can you imagine that in basketball or football? Peter Sagan's English is improving so much and he is fluent in Italian. The celebrations are suggested by his team mates. He obliges and I find that kind of cute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AppleTree View Post
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/phot...in-metz/230306

    Peter Sagan's bell. A new trend for pro's?
    I am enjoying Sagan more and more!
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    Quote Originally Posted by malkin View Post
    I am enjoying Sagan more and more!
    +1. He showed up to today's stage with his bell, again! See here.

    Also, to the theory of same tactics across teams, a quote from Voeckler:

    the main thing responsible is this…” Voeckler said, pointing to the radio earpiece dangling out of the collar of his jersey.

    “You’ve got the directeurs sportifs from 22 teams saying ‘you have to be up there, you have to be up there,’” Voeckler continued. “Well, if you have 198 riders like that on a road that’s only seven metres wide, then there’s not going to be room for anyone else. Voil*.” (Cycling News)

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    Quote Originally Posted by pll View Post
    +1. He showed up to today's stage with his bell, again! See here.

    Also, to the theory of same tactics across teams, a quote from Voeckler:

    the main thing responsible is this…” Voeckler said, pointing to the radio earpiece dangling out of the collar of his jersey.

    “You’ve got the directeurs sportifs from 22 teams saying ‘you have to be up there, you have to be up there,’” Voeckler continued. “Well, if you have 198 riders like that on a road that’s only seven metres wide, then there’s not going to be room for anyone else. Voil*.” (Cycling News)
    Now that's ironic. When they raced a stage (I think last year) with no radios, everyone was freaking out about it being too dangerous without them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by appletree View Post
    so my dh just read a tweet that said peter sagan started the race this morning with a bell on his handlebars. A cycling news interview shows him explaining it was because the peloton was dangerous, and "also for fun, ringa dinga dinga". I need to find a photo of that one.

    he is making this years tour more fun to watch. Love it when they don't take themselves so seriously.
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    So it turns out that Greipel separated his shoulder in one of the crashes. And still came thisclose to winning the sprint.
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    Regarding the crashes....this year it seems the Pelaton does not care about who is caught up in the crashes. They don't slow. They still just chase and try and get their sprinters up there. When I first started watching the tour it seemed like they were more "gentlemenly" about holding up a bit to let the others catch up. They realized how unfortunate it was for those caught up behind a crash. No more nice guy in the tour!

    I also have to have to admit I am a Sagan fan and love how he is making it fun for himself (and us watching)!

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    Quote Originally Posted by katluvr View Post
    Regarding the crashes....this year it seems the Pelaton does not care about who is caught up in the crashes. They don't slow. They still just chase and try and get their sprinters up there. When I first started watching the tour it seemed like they were more "gentlemenly" about holding up a bit to let the others catch up. They realized how unfortunate it was for those caught up behind a crash. No more nice guy in the tour!

    I also have to have to admit I am a Sagan fan and love how he is making it fun for himself (and us watching)!

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    I wonder if race radios and copying of strategies are to blame for these crashes. I was reading the news release from Euskatel Euskadi, following yesterday's stage and one thing jumped at me. One of the riders said that everybody was trying to get to the front as if they were all going to win the Tour. Clearly, if every team is trying to get to the front, there is a physical impossibility!

    Another factor that could be at play is the European crisis, in the sense that many sponsorships may be under risk. This might lead many riders to try to place well and impress, just in case their team goes belly up (think Team Geox -- despite winning the Vuelta a España, they lost sponsorship with little notice).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ny biker View Post
    HULK SMASH

    So it turns out that Greipel separated his shoulder in one of the crashes. And still came thisclose to winning the sprint.
    I went looking for the medical report from Lotto Belisol: "contusion of the right shoulder, a contusion of the right wrist, a cut on the thumb, a contusion of the left shoulder and lacerations to left knee, elbow and shoulder." Suspected dislocation of right shoulder in the first fall -- a site that he has injured before. Definitely impressive. I had thought the agony face at the finish line was more than the sprint effort.

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    Re: the language thing.
    DH and I look at each other in dismay as the riders answer reporter's questions in 3, 4, 5 languages after each stage. I can't even learn one other language well, and I actually enjoy that type of learning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crankin View Post
    Re: the language thing.
    DH and I look at each other in dismay as the riders answer reporter's questions in 3, 4, 5 languages after each stage. I can't even learn one other language well, and I actually enjoy that type of learning.
    I think it comes from early exposure to several languages... Cancellara, the most notable multi-language interviewee is Swiss - he probably grew up with people speaking German, Swiss German, Italian and French all around him. Other people that I know who speak many languages often learned at least 2 young. It wires your brain to be able to learn more. Makes me wish I'd been taught another when I was wee.
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