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  1. #16
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    Well I am assuming you have all your finances in order, no debt, emergency funds, retirement funds, and the issue is not the money.

    In any case, a bike is more like an investment in your future. Riding a bike regularly is way cheaper than, say, a heart attack.

    I can't help but wonder if this really isn't some sort of a control issue. In which case you have much deeper problems to deal with. Perhaps Crankin will chime in here.

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    I know that I was threatened when DH started riding seriously. At first, it was something he did with DS#2. But, when DS got too good for DH to ride with except on a recovery ride for DS, he started riding with groups or alone. This coincided with the time I was burned out on the gym and gaining weight. I didn't care that DH had been perfectly willing to let me teach group fitness at all sorts of weird hours and spend half my weekends taking training for my little part time job, in addition to my full time job and having 2 young kids. I basicallyy did what I wanted!
    One day I was so disgusted with myself and jealous of DH's passion for cycling, I went out and took a 5 mile very fast walk, up one of the biggest hills in my town. It was 95 degrees and I didn't have water. When I came back, DH said, "If you can do that, you can ride." on the sly, he set up his old MTV for me and ordered me some shorts and a jersey.
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    Its easy to look at cycling as an expensive/excessive hobby. The average person would look at a bike at Walmart and think that is good enough! Unless you are in the sport, it really is hard to understand the expense of investing thousands of dollars.

    While coming to a compromise is a marital issue, I don't believe that its a sign of a bad marriage or even a problem. Its just one more situation where two people have two different perspectives and since you share a life (even one with separate bank accounts) a compromise needs to be found.

    There is another angle to all of this, cycling is an investment in your health. DH and I don't have a lot of pricey toys either and we are often living paycheck to paycheck, but when it comes to running and biking we are willing to spend some money. It's preventative health care and saves us (hopefully) lots of medical expenses down the road!

    I hope you are able to work something out and maybe even start cycling together!
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    Quote Originally Posted by limewave View Post
    While coming to a compromise is a marital issue, I don't believe that its a sign of a bad marriage or even a problem. Its just one more situation where two people have two different perspectives and since you share a life (even one with separate bank accounts) a compromise needs to be found.
    ITA -- it's only a problem if one (or both) person(s) is unwilling to come to a sort of happy medium. I hope this is not the case for you, Medianox.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Medianox View Post
    My DH is a computer geek. Very recently, he decided he needed an upgrade to his PC (which was about 5 years old) and after some discussion and my input on the matter he decided to build his own. He sourced out the parts and was able to build a top notch machine for about $1000.00 less than a comparable off the shelf model. I agreed with his doing this in part because he very rarely treats himself to anything nice and I thought it would help him see my point about a new bike.

    It didn't. He is just stubborn on the fact that he doesn't think I should ever need a new or different bike.
    My husband wanted badly a new computer. His old one wasn't bad at all but he is a computer geek, too. So he cleverly used the fact that I bought a new racing mtn bike last year for about $ 1,5 k so I had nothing to do but agree with him. Before he put the things this way, I totally didn't see the point of buying a new computer but after referring to my bike, I got totally to his side and sympathized. Maybe you should try to explain it firmly: "you bought a new computer even having an old one and I deserve a new bike".
    Nevertheless, my husband totally objects to my getting a roadie I want a road bike very much but I decided to copromise in order to keep the family together.
    Good luck and I hope you'll get a new bike soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anelia View Post
    My husband wanted badly a new computer. His old one wasn't bad at all but he is a computer geek, too. So he cleverly used the fact that I bought a new racing mtn bike last year for about $ 1,5 k so I had nothing to do but agree with him. Before he put the things this way, I totally didn't see the point of buying a new computer but after referring to my bike, I got totally to his side and sympathized. Maybe you should try to explain it firmly: "you bought a new computer even having an old one and I deserve a new bike".
    Nevertheless, my husband totally objects to my getting a roadie I want a road bike very much but I decided to copromise in order to keep the family together.
    Good luck and I hope you'll get a new bike soon.
    While I don't think that approach is totally invalid, I think there are some downsides--emotionally and financially--to a tit-for-tat approach. My husband and I have resorted to it a time or two ourselves, and it always feels a bit like blackmail to me. Plus, it obscures the bigger issues that might be at play. Can we really afford this purchase is one of them. Another is, do they suppport my desires/needs/interests irrespective of their own and vice versa? I ultimately think there are better ways to approach this kind of thing that will help to build more trust in a relationship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by indysteel View Post
    While I don't think that approach is totally invalid, I think there are some downsides--emotionally and financially--to a tit-for-tat approach. My husband and I have resorted to it a time or two ourselves, and it always feels a bit like blackmail to me. Plus, it obscures the bigger issues that might be at play. Can we really afford this purchase is one of them. Another is, do they suppport my desires/needs/interests irrespective of their own and vice versa? I ultimately think there are better ways to approach this kind of thing that will help to build more trust in a relationship.
    It is tricky, for certain. DH bought a Mukluk last Fall. I never really paid much attention to the components on it, until I started looking at 29ers (since DS has pretty much taken over my too-small mountain bike). DH made noises to the effect that I should be happy with lower-end components when we choose my bike, even though his bikes all have higher-end ones (and he has 4 bikes to my 2). While I don't think tit-for-tat is always a healthy way to go, I also think there needs to be some level of fairness when it comes to a couple who shares a hobby. One person shouldn't always be expected to settle for entry-level equipment (with the excuse that they are noobs...in my case I may be a noob, but I've clearly shown that I'm not looking at anything cycling-related with anything other than intent to continue and improve as fast as I reasonably can, which is easier on better equipment, especially in terms of keeping up with stronger/faster riders) when the other gets to go hog-wild.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoom-zoom View Post
    It is tricky, for certain. DH bought a Mukluk last Fall. I never really paid much attention to the components on it, until I started looking at 29ers (since DS has pretty much taken over my too-small mountain bike). DH made noises to the effect that I should be happy with lower-end components when we choose my bike, even though his bikes all have higher-end ones (and he has 4 bikes to my 2). While I don't think tit-for-tat is always a healthy way to go, I also think there needs to be some level of fairness when it comes to a couple who shares a hobby. One person shouldn't always be expected to settle for entry-level equipment (with the excuse that they are noobs...in my case I may be a noob, but I've clearly shown that I'm not looking at anything cycling-related with anything other than intent to continue and improve as fast as I reasonably can, which is easier on better equipment, especially in terms of keeping up with stronger/faster riders) when the other gets to go hog-wild.
    Oh, I absolutely agree with that, but I think that issue is a bit different from the "you got what you wanted, so I should get what I want" type of argument/concession.

    In the end, I'd rather support my spouse, and be supported in return, because we love and trust one another and want each other to be fulfilled within the confines of our budget and other goals and interests. I don't want to support their desire for (fill in the blank) just so that I can turn around six months later and lobby for what I want. IMO, there are often more constructive ways to come to these decisions.
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    OP, I was your husband. I was really against it when my dbf bought his bike. I look back at the person I was then with regret. I wish I had supported him at the time. But, he got it without my approval, and I got over it. I'm really glad he put himself first, because I didn't, and he deserved it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redrhodie View Post
    OP, I was your husband. I was really against it when my dbf bought his bike. I look back at the person I was then with regret. I wish I had supported him at the time. But, he got it without my approval, and I got over it. I'm really glad he put himself first, because I didn't, and he deserved it.
    It's a rare person who can admit that, I think. Kudos to you - and look now - you're one of the ones lots of us look up to!
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    I've resisted some things my husband has wanted in the few years we've been together. I often felt justified--and still do--because he would overstate his case in an effort to get what he wanted. And by overstating his case, I grew distrustful of his definition of need versus want. This was especially true when we were first buying our house together and had expenses out the wazhoo. It took some time and some discussions to get to a place where he resisted the impulse to overstate his case and for me to get past my impulse to just say "no."
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    Quote Originally Posted by blueberry View Post
    it's a rare person who can admit that, i think. Kudos to you - and look now - you're one of the ones lots of us look up to!
    +1.
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    I am so lucky - Thom is happy to take my castoff equipment. He was joking about it on our tour with all the other men. (I was the only chick!) I need 1 new tire, I get a matching new set and he gets the still serviceable old one to use on his bike. Of course I think he planned my double wheel upgrade just so he could get better wheels for himself. "Oh honey, these new wheels are even faster than the ones we just got. I'll just take these for myself."

    Seriously, I am very fortunate in my choice of a mate.

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    It could be that your hubby does not understand bikes and may never understand that this is a "gear" sport. My husband and I raced bikes for some 20 years (both Mountain and Road, and cyclecross); you should have seen our stable and still we have a lot of bikes even though neither of us rides that much anymore. I have never told my husband not to buy a bike nor has he said it to me, but probably because there was a mutual understanding of the concept of "gear" sport. (He did have more bikes over our racing lifetime, but I was always happy with what I had). I took up the sport after he did and he was always the one who wanted to take all our vacations on or with bikes and they usually revolved around racing. Sometimes I wanted to do other things, but much of the time, we raced and rode for years. It worked out okay.

    I took up tennis about 5 years ago. I am very into tennis and play leagues, go to tournaments, etc. I am 52 now and he is 58. He does not have the bike bug anymore. He occasionally plays tennis with me or others, but is not really into competing or playing a lot.

    Now, interestingly (or ironically), he gets very angry at me when I play tennis, says I do it too much, etc., etc. I think it is a control issue. He does not have a passion so wants to control mine. I make a concerted effort to set aside weekends for time with him; and also evenings for time with him. Most of the time, I play tennis during the day when he is at work and so it does not take away from our time together. He still has issues with my tennis. So, perhaps, your husband is in a time of his life where he wants to control your actions because he is lacking in something in his life. That is the way I feel about my husband's behavior. I think he is bored and needs something more in this life besides the fact that he really does have some part of his personality that likes to control others. (this is not new!)

    Anyway, I continue to compromise and he continues to grumble. So far, we work it out without too much undue stress!

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    Odd progression . . .

    Zoom-Zoom, I had a weird opposite thing happen with DH. He bought me my first mntn bike--a nice one. With high-end components, full-suspension. He wanted me to enjoy mountain biking. He thought having a comfortable ride with smooth shifting would help. He also wanted me to have components that would hold-up while I learned to shift and brake properly.

    Then when I got into it more he said I could get by with lower components because blah, blah, blah (I don't really remember his reasoning). I agreed 'cause we couldn't afford "high-end" anyways. At the same time he was looking at new road bike and wouldn't consider anything that wasn't carbon frame with Dura-Ace.

    A few years later . . . DH is VERY supportive of me getting high-end bike with bike components. Why? Because we decided on equal budgets for new bikes on alternating years. If he can convince me (the saver) to spend more money on a bike, then he can get away with a nicer bike! And here I thought he was being supportive and encouraging . . .
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