You mean in the store? Unfortunately the ones I picked-up weren't a style that TE carries.
I had read this review prior to ordering them and I really strongly agree with it. The chamois felt very stiff and diaperish at first. But after wearing and washing again it's already noticeably looser.
I didn't find them to be as long as I might have liked...mine definitely don't come to mid-calf. Mine only came just below the knee--and I do NOT have a long inseam (I think it's about 28" from crotch to ankle). But they were just perfect for a windy ride in the low-50s. If it had been a little colder I may have used knee-high merino wool socks for a bit of extra warmth.




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