Surly Pacer vs. Cross-Check

[Catrin]

So the Gunnar is probably a bit lighter in weight than the Pacer...

It is probably quite a bit lighter. I don't know if a Pacer is significantly lighter than a Long Haul Trucker in a similar size, but my full custom Gunnar (~48cm) is a good 12 pounds lighter than my LHT was (46cm). That higher quality steel makes a difference in the weight! That was one of my reasons to get a Gunnar - to lower the weight while keeping that day-long comfort.

[eofelis]

It is probably quite a bit lighter. I don't know if a Pacer is significantly lighter than a Long Haul Trucker in a similar size, but my full custom Gunnar (~48cm) is a good 12 pounds lighter than my LHT was (46cm). That higher quality steel makes a difference in the weight! That was one of my reasons to get a Gunnar - to lower the weight while keeping that day-long comfort.

Those LHTs are porky bikes! My LHT is the smallest size, has nice XT comps on it, 32 spoke wheels, and lightweight racks and it still weighs in close to 30 lbs. It's a real workhorse. But it does ride really nice, especially downhill with a tailwind.