Mens vs Womens bike issue

[emichele]

I got the medium. I was looking online and it appears that the men's medium falls somewhere between the women's small and tall in most areas. I don't know enough about frames and frame geometries to say whether they look proportional from the specs. I thought womens bikes were supposed to have proportionally shorter top tubes to help w/ reaching the handlebars.

I'm 5'4, so I'm not sure what frame size is appropriate. With the Trek WSD they put me in a 15" Frame, I had a lot of trouble w/ the saddle being too close, among other things. I tried the Vita in 2 sizes and the smaller of the two was more appropriate. I don't know if that was the medium/large or small/medium. Since they showed me the Vita, which is just a women's bike, I assumed the Quick I first test-rode was the women's version, but as I said, I'm now second-guessing that.

The women's version of the Quick has "Lock on" grips, I'm not sure what that means, and yes, the handlebar is a bit smaller. I don't have a problem gripping the brake levers thankfully.

[Owlie]

You'll find that for many bikes, there's just not that much difference between the "men's" bikes and women's, unless you're on the shorter side...and even then, that's only "maybe."

[zoom-zoom]

Interesting...in looking at the geometry charts Cannondale actually DOES have pretty noticeable differences between their men's and women's frames. There are 6 available sizes for men and only 4 for women. And the sizes don't correlate as expected.

You ended up with a men's medium...what size was the women's you tested? You're about my height--a medium sounds maybe a hair big for you. My current Cannondale mountain bike is an XS/Petite. That's a bit too small for me (I'm 5'3.5" and like to be in a fairly stretched-out position). A small should be perfect. A Tall would be too big.

In the Quick I think I'd likely need a S in the women's or the men's. Those sizes appear to be the same across both genders.

[emichele]

The last bike I had was I guess like a city bike w/ the big seat, and a basket on the front, and 3 speeds.

I don't know what size I tried the first time in the Quick 5. I figured if I went back they would just give me the same sizes to try. My test rides were about 10 mins each the first time and maybe a little shorter the 2nd time.

[Melalvai]

I'm 5'4, so I'm not sure what frame size is appropriate. With the Trek WSD they put me in a 15" Frame, I had a lot of trouble w/ the saddle being too close, among other things.

I'm 5'5" and I ride a Trek WSD 17" frame. However, that doesn't mean a lot because my husband is also 5'5" and we are proportioned completely differently. He has short legs, long torso, long arms. If he biked I'm sure he would not be comfortable on my bike.

I agree you should keep working with your bike shop, ask if there's any geometry differences between the frames. Bike fit is mostly about the bike and the rest is about tweaking saddle height, saddle tilt, moving the saddle back and forth along its rails to be closer or further from the handlebar. It can take a long time to get it dialed in just right for you. It helps to get a multitool and learn how to make these adjustments yourself, especially if you're restricted to that bike shop's weekend hours. They are pretty simple adjustments to make.

Good luck!
Rachel

[emichele]

My friend has a multitool that I can use but the shop should be able to set me up w/ it properly. If I should actually be in a small, whether men's or women's, and not the medium, I'm pretty much out of options cuz I already bought the bike.

My inseam appears to be between 75 and 76cm w/ bare feet, so between 29.5 and 30".

[zoom-zoom]

My friend has a multitool that I can use but the shop should be able to set me up w/ it properly. If I should actually be in a small, whether men's or women's, and not the medium, I'm pretty much out of options cuz I already bought the bike.

My inseam appears to be between 75 and 76cm w/ bare feet, so between 29.5 and 30".

Sounds like we are body doubles, almost! Yeah, I'm suspicious that the bike that fit you so well was a size smaller. I doubt I'd be comfortable on a medium, either.

Do they have any record of the size you test rode? If they screwed up and sold you a markedly different size than what you tested, then it should be on them to make it right, even if you've already purchased the bike and rode it around.

[Sky King]

Grab the multi tool, make some adjustments, go out on the bike, take the tool with you. Fitting your saddle isn't an exact science and it often takes a few trials to get it right. Other options abound - different seat post, different handlebars. Don't panic and go have fun

[emichele]

The first time I rode the bikes at this shop, I rode the Quick 5 in one size and the Vita in 2 sizes, but I have no idea what sizes those were. The second time I rode them, I was more concerned with how smooth the ride was since I assessed that I sat fine in both the quick 5 and the smaller vita. The bike I rode the 2nd time was the one I bought but I again just assumed it was the same as the previous time but in the next model up. I mean I can go back and ask if maybe I rode the size smaller the first time because the saddle had to be moved back instead of forward and see what they say.

[ny biker]

My friend has a multitool that I can use but the shop should be able to set me up w/ it properly. If I should actually be in a small, whether men's or women's, and not the medium, I'm pretty much out of options cuz I already bought the bike.

My inseam appears to be between 75 and 76cm w/ bare feet, so between 29.5 and 30".

Not necessarily. My road bike was bought first by someone else and she returned it because she didn't like the gears. So depending on the shop policy, you might be able to exchange it for a different size. I would definitely talk to them about the situation.

[Melalvai]

I am curious, if you have time could you measure from the bottom bracket (that's where the pedals attach) to the top of the seat tube (where the seat post goes in-- don't measure the seat post itself)? That's where they got 15" on the Trek you tried. Your height & measurements are pretty close to mine and I ride a 17". My old bike was 15" and it was too small. I made it work with an extra long seatpost and some other adjustments. I can ride my dad's 19"-- with a lot of adjustments.

The bike size, and the adjustments the bike shop make, will get you pretty close, but I found it was just a lot more convenient to make these tiny adjustments on the spot myself.

It is important to tighten things down really well. My seat slipped more than once-- but since I knew how to adjust it I could get it back into place easily. It was pretty funny when it was saddle angle I was tinkering with, and I'd get it where I wanted and then halfway home I'd get goosed when it slipped!

[emichele]

I can get you that measurement tomorrow. My friend just said today that sometimes his seat slips out of place too. I haven't ridden it that much though.

[Hartmame]

I'm surprised that at 5'5" you ride a 17 " frame. I'm 5'4" and ride a 14" it is a Kona which has a pretty streached out geometry which might be why it fits so well I tried a 13" Trek which was too short and a 15" which didn't have enough stand over height. It is all about how each of us is proportioned though.

[emichele]

I am curious, if you have time could you measure from the bottom bracket (that's where the pedals attach) to the top of the seat tube (where the seat post goes in-- don't measure the seat post itself)?

I'm not sure if I'm taking the measurements right but from the bottom of where the pedals attach to where the seatpost starts is 18.5" From the top of where the pedals attach is 16.5"

[Melalvai]

I'm not sure if I'm taking the measurements right but from the bottom of where the pedals attach to where the seatpost starts is 18.5" From the top of where the pedals attach is 16.5"

I should have specified from the center of the bottom bracket. I think you have a 17" frame. I could be wrong, because as Hartmame pointed out it's not all height, proportions are important, but I suspect your bike is a good size for you and the rest of it will be tweaking it to get it just right for you.

Which you already knew.