Quote Originally Posted by roguedog View Post
Eofelis... can you compare the gunnar to the pacer? Thanks
All the parts on the Pacer, including the fork, were moved onto the Gunnar Sport frame. But the Gunnar Sport was not a stock size frame. It was a custom done for someone else that I got on ebay. It's about 41cm c-t, about 51cm effective top tube. It has 700c wheels. The stock size Gunnar Sports in xs size have 650c wheels.

My parts are 9 speed Ultegra triple cranks (165mm crank arms), Shimano R600 (Ultegra quality) triple STIs, Salsa Poco handlebars (40cm), 'cross brake levers, XT 12-34 cassette and XT rear der., Mavic Open Pro wheels, 32 spokes. Tires, 25mm, vary depending on what I find on sale or in the bike room.

My Sport has a probably has a bit different geometry than the Pacer, maybe slacker headtube and seat tube angles (but I haven't checked exactly). My Gunnar has longer chainstays than the Pacer, at least 1cm longer. The Gunnar is thinner walled higher quality steel tubing, OX Platinum and 853, compared to the 4130 steel of the Pacer. The Surly tubing is pretty hard to dent, the Gunnar tubing dents more easily. So the Gunnar is probably a bit lighter in weight than the Pacer.

The Pacer is a pretty comfortable ride. The Gunnar is an absolute couch. I've done big long mountain climbs and descents, and century rides on rough and chip sealed roads, on both and neither one is the least bit buzzy and I never felt beat up at the end of the day.