Quote Originally Posted by Antaresia View Post
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question: how long does a ride need to be before you decide to put on the padded cycle shorts? I never thought I'd need a pair.
1 mile Ok, I copied LPH but the point is I do not ride without bike shorts. Period. Do I HAVE to, probably not for shorter rides but the fact of the matter is when I need them, I need them. One doesn't have to wear lycra if you don't want to, there are separate liners you can buy to put under other shorts. I really like the liner for my Terry mtb shorts, and Terry also has a short ("Freedom"?) that doesn't fit like lycra but is an integrated short.

I do like the PI Cargo shorts - but HATE, HATE, HATE the 3D MTB chamois of the liner. Love the regular PI 3D chamois but the MTB version is just much too thin for me, or something.