The "wicked expensive" LG's were worth it, eh? Thanks for the review of the knickers, as I'm wondering whether or not I should get them. They cost a big chunk of change, relatively speaking, and I'm finding that knee warmers & regular shorts are working out for me on those in between days. Might be more practical to get another pair of shorts instead of knickers, which I won't be able to wear once our hot/humid summer weather kicks in. Do the castelli's have more chamois than the Witches Britches? Is the fit (fabric) good, despite the big chamois? One of my biggest dislikes is fabric that isn't supportive (PI attack shorts).