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  1. #241
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    Wow, cool shoes!!
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  2. #242
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    Agreed. I've never heard of that brand before. I'll have to check them out.
    Live with intention. Walk to the edge. Listen hard. Practice wellness. Play with abandon. Laugh. Choose with no regret. Continue to learn. Appreciate your friends. Do what you love. Live as if this is all there is.

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  3. #243
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    You are doing more than trying hard enough!
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  4. #244
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    Started taking Tamoxifen this week, and so far, so good. I took most of the week off from riding, just commuted to work one day, and that pretty good. After last week, I obviously needed a break. Still a bit of fatigue, but nothing a nap doesn't help with.

    My skin is healing way faster than I expected. Not much color or peeling. My breast feels and looks normal. Very happy.
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  5. #245
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    One more step. So glad you're doing well.
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  6. #246
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    yay for red hoodie!

    good that the tamoxifen is going so easily.

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  7. #247
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    I finally discovered the true meaning of fatigue. It hit hard again after my last bike ride, which was last Sun. It was only 20 miles, and not windy, but it basically took me 3 days to recover. Talk about SLEEP! I feel like a Grimm character. I think I'm over the hump now, only taking one nap after work today.

    So far, I haven't had the typical SEs from tamoxifen, although I have lost interest in food. It's weird. I don't even want cake. Haven't had a hot flash yet. Haven't gained weight.

    I'm planning on commuting to work on Sat. I have to accept that riding needs to be easy easy. It's really hard not to try to put some effort into it and ride normally, but I know that I don't have the energy to expend. It's challenging to accept limitations.

    Edit, actually, my problem isn't accepting limitations, it's identifying them. I just don't know how much I can/should do.
    Last edited by redrhodie; 03-09-2012 at 03:43 AM.
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  8. #248
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    since I have been on tamoxifen, I have decidely become an afternoon napper. It seems to make little difference whether I have ridden, worked out at the gym or just spent the morning weaving. come 1;30 -2:00 PM my head grows weary and my eyes grow dim. I tuck myself for a 2 hour snooze and then walk the dogs which wakes me up enough to cook dinner and pull myself together for the evening.

    I suspect its a combination of the continuous 2 am hot flashes and tamoxifen andtraining hard plus a little mental laziness. I tell the SAG guy that it is because I spent 20 years getting up at 5 AM to get three kids ready for the school bus at 7 am, not to mention the continual stress of conscientiously parenting three smart kids to a responsible adulthood.

    I swear every time I ride or I go into the gym promising myself to be gentle it backfires and before I know it I have done an extra 20 miles or and extra hour at high cardio rate.

    That's my excuse and I am sticking to it.

    marni
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  9. #249
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    Time for an update. My tamoxifen side effects seem to be mild depression, decreased appetite, and weight loss. No hot flashes yet. Now here's the funny (not so funny) part, as I'm concerned about the weight loss- yesterday some jerk yells "fat b!tch" at me out a car window. I'm 5'5", 120 so yeah. Fat.

    I think about how devastating that could have been to so many women, and I hope he never does it to anyone else. Lucky for him my chasing mojo isn't back yet. Soon.

    My nurse said that most of the side effects usually go away in a few months, so I'm not really worried. Actually things seem a little better already. I'm almost back to regular weekly miles on the bike. Much slower, but not wiped out after, like I was.
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  10. #250
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    Time for us to schedule that ride...
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  11. #251
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    Thanks for the update. Good to hear you're getting your strength back.
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  12. #252
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    Red: Glad things seem to be getting better and better. I know it is hard to have patience, but you seem to be doing okay that way too. Hang in there - I'm always thinking of you.

    spoke

  13. #253
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    I do see improvement, but I'm still so slow. Crankin, I know you'll be okay with riding easy for me, so we can make plans. I will make you see how strong and fast you are!

    Last Sat, we had a woman on our group who I didn't know, who is a racer and is starting a women's ride from my lbs. She asked me how I was and I said nervous because I wouldn't be able to keep up. She kind of gave one of those upbeat you'll do great! answers that perky cheerleader types give, and I found it so annoying, as I got dropped in the first few feet. She didn't know me or that I'm fighting cancer, so I shouldn't take it out on her, but it bothered me. Bah. I used to be perky. I think I'm jealous.

    But it is getting better. If the only thing I can complain about is not keeping up on the bike, things are great.
    Last edited by redrhodie; 03-20-2012 at 03:32 PM.
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  14. #254
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    I hate those perky types, too. Also, the ones who say, "You'll be fine," but really don't want to help anyone who is struggling for whatever reason. They just want their own work out. I saw that today at the gym. I guess I've always been attuned to teaching beginners, whether it was in a class or on the bike, even when I was at my super fastest/fittest. Personally, I don't care.
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  15. #255
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    Sorry I haven't been around for a while. My mild depression turned into depression after my last post. It was awful. I felt so bad one day, as bad as the day my mother died, that I called my oncologist for help, since I figured it was the tamoxifen wreaking havoc on my hormones. She claimed it wasn't a common SE of tamoxifen (which is contrary to everything I've read). She suggested I go to my GP for an antidepressant. I mentioned that I read that many antidepressants interfere with tamoxifen. She said "Oh, yeah" in that way that people do when they forget something they used to know, but then she stated that the jury is still out on that. I'm pretty sure she's wrong about that (or the American Cancer Society is). So, I said I didn't trust my NP to prescribe antidepressants, and did she have other suggestions? Yoga was all she could think of.

    In hindsight, she should have recommended a support group, or a psychiatrist, someone trained to deal with this, someone really qualified to prescribe drugs if that was really what I needed. I wasn't able to think of these options myself at the time, but shouldn't she have been? And now it's been a couple of weeks, and she hasn't followed up which further makes me think she's a bad doctor. I've lost faith in her. I'll be finding someone new.

    On the bright side, the depression went away without drugs, cycling and massage helped, but I think my body just needed to adapt to the drug. I'm still losing weight, have joint pain, my hair is brittle, but no other SE's. I am back to feeling very lucky for my life. And, I rode fast and fearlessly on the last group ride. I didn't get dropped or anything. Yay me.

    I am sure the depression was related to the tamoxifen, and adjusting to the drug has been the hardest part of my treatment. I still feel lucky it's an option for me. But this part was hard.
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