Opinion needed on two bikes

[CyborgQueen]

I didn't really analyze it very much, but if I had to pick, I would pick the Scott because the components are a little better.

HOWEVER - it really comes down to fit! Same size bike may have different top tube length or geometry.

Triple - that's really your decision, but if you get a compact, you won't really lose out a lot of gears if you go triple, and forces you work harder on hills...embrace them! On a normal 20 miler ride for me, I can easily reach 1000' ascent gains, and I'm fine with my double. Hate hills? Get 11-28 cassette for the rear wheel, it'll be a very nice upgrade.

Good luck!

[Gypsy]

I can't speak on the brands/quality of the bikes you posted, but I can tell you that the Compact is equivalent to the triple that you're thinking of getting (so I agree with CybrogQueen).

A friend who is mad about spinning on her bike because she had knee surgery just replaced her triple with a compact because it gives her the same gears she needs to climb.

This should also open up your options to other bikes.

The only other thing I would say is go to your LBS and try all the different bikes out there before you make a purchase.

[azfiddle]

I had the Fuji Finest 2.0- similar frame but with slightly lower components. I rode it about 6000 miles, but when I was ready to replace it, I discovered it didn't fit me nearly as well as the bike I replaced it with. I think it was fine for me as a starter bike, and I rode as far as 72 miles on it. I have no experience with the Scott.

I'm sure it might be worth trying the steel frame to compare the comfort compared to the alloy, if there is one available.

[jusdooit]

FYI, the order of component quality (Shimano) from lowest to highest is:
Sora
Tiagra
105
Ultegra
Dura Ace/Di2
Which means the components on these two bikesare essentially the same.
Ditto about a compact double giving the same gear range as a triple, it comes down to personal preference. I would test ride as many different bikes as you can. It's really all about fit/comfort on the bike. You'll know it when you find "the one." Good luck and have fun shopping around.

[Norse]

Agree with what the others have said. See if the LBSs will let you do an extended "real" test - do one of your normal rides of at least 20 miles if you can. When I narrowed my most recent search down to 2, both shops let me do this, although one (the one I ended up buying from) was much more accomodating about this than the other (I blame the new young manager who seemed to have little customer service experience ). After my test rides, I knew which bike felt soooo right and which one didn't quite measure up. Good luck and happy riding!

[CyborgQueen]

What is your budget?

You really need to test ride your bike. Especially since you are new to road biking and want to do a long ride.

The difference between mens and womens should be fit. In general, they figure women have longer legs in proportion to their overall height. Not true. Some are evenly proportioned. Some women have shorter legs. Some men have longer.

Suggestion. Start test-riding Jamis bikes. Both mens and womans. You don't have to buy it if you don't like the color. You get a lot for the money with Jamis.

x2 for Jamis. I have Jamis Ventura Elite with full Ultegra components (yeah I went all out on my first road bike - still have her). When I was bike shopping, I knew I wanted Ultegra components. I looked at Trek, Specialized (and they didn't have the 44cm that I needed...I like the current Specialized women's bikes than 2008...regardless...), Cannondale, and a couple others. They all were at LEAST $600-$1000 MORE for the bike with the SAME component and frame material. The geometry were all different, but still.

Something to consider as well.

[Chicken Little]

Fit first, Scott second.

[Mel.b]

Thanks for the feedbaxk. I have ended up getting the Scott unfortunately where i live most bike shops will not get in a bike (if they stock the brand) unless you are guarenting to buy it...makes it very difficult to test ride a range of bikes Side effect of the recession i guess.

Now just for the rain to stop so i can go and ride it (winter jacket is on the shopping list!)

[crows]

hello all,
I have just bought myself a beautiful Azzurri Forza Elite.....I love it but last weekend I fell off!! I realised, when I went over the incident that there was a very good reason why I fell off.....my tyre hit my toe clip when I was turning my wheel and over balanced me. My bike frame is a small one, it has been properly fitted for me. Is this something which is common?

[Antaresia]

hello all,
I have just bought myself a beautiful Azzurri Forza Elite.....I love it but last weekend I fell off!! I realised, when I went over the incident that there was a very good reason why I fell off.....my tyre hit my toe clip when I was turning my wheel and over balanced me. My bike frame is a small one, it has been properly fitted for me. Is this something which is common?

It's called toe-overlap. It bothers/doesn't bother people to different degrees, Sheldon Brown wrote a little blurb on it.

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_ta-o.html

I don't mind it, if you know it's there and watch out for it you'll probably be okay.

[Catrin]

hello all,
I have just bought myself a beautiful Azzurri Forza Elite.....I love it but last weekend I fell off!! I realised, when I went over the incident that there was a very good reason why I fell off.....my tyre hit my toe clip when I was turning my wheel and over balanced me. My bike frame is a small one, it has been properly fitted for me. Is this something which is common?

Antaresia is correct, toe-overlap can be a problem with smaller bikes. I've had that happen once myself, and while I didn't fall (somehow) it taught me to watch out for it. I've found that it is only an issue with tight turns...and I've learned what my limits are. Not all of my bikes have had that problem, currently neither of my bikes appear to be a concern but I still watch out for it.